Connecting the DoTs: A Summoner Guide

[OneWingedSora]

Even assuming 1 WD = 10 INT. The chest + 210 gloves will still be ahead.

And for progressing Savage, you won't be able to get the 210 weapon until you clear A4S, making the 210 chest the better choice for progression.

[Grimm08]

Even assuming 1 WD = 10 INT. The chest + 210 gloves will still be ahead.

And for progressing Savage, you won't be able to get the 210 weapon until you clear A4S, making the 210 chest the better choice for progression.

And how to you go about acquiring said chest when you cannot upgrade until beating A3S? In the current state of progression, the highest immediate upgrade is what matters. I don't play a caster, so I cannot attest for their weight or damage numbers, but you cannot start using examples from something that only 2 groups in the world have any access to.

[OneWingedSora]

And how to you go about acquiring said chest when you cannot upgrade until beating A3S? In the current state of progression, the highest immediate upgrade is what matters. I don't play a caster, so I cannot attest for their weight or damage numbers, but you cannot start using examples from something that only 2 groups in the world have any access to.

Because I am assuming more groups will start clearing A3S next week. And having the 210 chest + 210 ring will be better than having 200 weapon for A4S.

[Grimm08]

You make a very large assumption there. The 2 best groups in the world only cleared it because they smashed their faces against it almost non-stop, and very little information about said fight is currently available. On top of that, how do you guarantee that you get the upgrade material over another dps? There are many many other things to consider besides strict numbers.

[ShinryuReishiki]

You make a very large assumption there. The 2 best groups in the world only cleared it because they smashed their faces against it almost non-stop, and very little information about said fight is currently available. On top of that, how do you guarantee that you get the upgrade material over another dps? There are many many other things to consider besides strict numbers.

Although only 2 groups have cleared A3S, there are lots of groups putting in time as well. Lack of info is not an issue; it's the enrage which is stopping groups from clearing. Each new week of gear lowers that hurdle that much more. It's certainly not unreasonable to expect that a lot more groups will begin to clear with better weapons.

As for guaranteeing getting the Gobtwine, why would they not get it? Any serious group would prioritize giving the drop to the person who could actually use it. It's not like the entire group would be buying body over weapon.

Sort of. It's half a Simulator, half a DPS model and Excel based. And I need Raw Data to get a working Summoner Damage Model up.

What kind of data do you need?

Has anyone measured the difference between Ifrit and Garuda DPS 3.0?

At i180, Ifrit was about 50 DPS ahead of my Garuda. I haven't really compared the two since.

Does spd effect Contagion?

Contagion is an ability rather than a spell, so it's unaffected.

[Sleigh]

Although only 2 groups have cleared A3S, there are lots of groups putting in time as well. Lack of info is not an issue; it's the enrage which is stopping groups from clearing. Each new week of gear lowers that hurdle that much more. It's certainly not unreasonable to expect that a lot more groups will begin to clear with better weapons.

As for guaranteeing getting the Gobtwine, why would they not get it? Any serious group would prioritize giving the drop to the person who could actually use it. It's not like the entire group would be buying body over weapon.


What kind of data do you need?


At i180, Ifrit was about 50 DPS ahead of my Garuda. I haven't really compared the two since.


Contagion is an ability rather than a spell, so it's unaffected.

I'm seeing about 40~ DPS in Ifrit's favor at i191, not counting Radiant Shield which is harder to test (1000-2000 damage per use usually, on a single tank).

Garuda's just so dang safe, hard to give up the mechanical freedom (Contagion = can just Ruin spam for the next 30s, so easy to do mechanics with 100% efficiency) and consistency as of right now.

[Minorinz]

You can't "scale" stats like that.

Ah ok that makes sense. Auto attacks don't count for us casters. Although did you use a simulator or just raw data to get your stat weight? I still want secondary stats approximation as INT is increasing. This will really help. Thanks for passing by!

Even assuming 1 WD = 10 INT. The chest + 210 gloves will still be ahead.

And for progressing Savage, you won't be able to get the 210 weapon until you clear A4S, making the 210 chest the better choice for progression.

You will have to buy the weapon eventually, you can delay it now but you will buy it anyway. The INT difference is not that huge with the weapon. The body/ring will provide a nice boost for S3 if you plan on downing it this week or next week but then it's almost the same with every other piece of gear so the weapon will be the next best thing to get.