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  1. #741
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    OneWingedSora's Avatar
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    Mala Liath
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minorinz View Post
    Just a warning guys, this only works for summoner because of the low WD unlike other jobs. Not sure what the stats are for other jobs.
    What do you mean low WD ? It has the same WD as BLM o.o

    Edit: Are you ok with me using that pic on reddit ?
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    Last edited by OneWingedSora; 08-02-2015 at 03:50 PM.
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  2. #742
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by OneWingedSora View Post
    What do you mean low WD ? It has the same WD as BLM o.o

    Edit: Are you ok with me using that pic on reddit ?
    I'm talking about this (2.0 WD stats not 3.0):

    Bard: 9.429
    Ninja: 9.132
    Monk: 9.338
    Dragoon: 9.349
    SMN: 6.911


    If it's gonna help people then sure, feel free to share.

    edit: black mages have the same total magical damage. i'm just not sure about their weapon damage to main stat ratio because their secondary stats weight is different than ours, i think s: ?
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    Last edited by Minorinz; 08-02-2015 at 04:09 PM.

  3. #743
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    Avalen Koma
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    Pretty sure SMN is the only class you can comparatively consider secondary stats over WD. The reason for that before was largely SMN DoTs not being so heavily influenced by WD. I havent checked to see how true that still is in 3.0 but id be curious in that regard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minorinz View Post
    I'm talking about this (2.0 WD stats not 3.0):

    Bard: 9.429
    Ninja: 9.132
    Monk: 9.338
    Dragoon: 9.349
    SMN: 6.911


    If it's gonna help people then sure, feel free to share.

    edit: black mages have the same total magical damage. i'm just not sure about their weapon damage to main stat ratio because their secondary stats weight is different than ours, i think s: ?
    the reason it 's higher is because of their comparitavely higher total WD, not because of their total Scaling. same for BLM.
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  5. #745
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    Sunako Kirishiki
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    Do anybody have any info what is SMN stat weights 3.0?
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  6. #746
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odowla View Post
    the reason it 's higher is because of their comparitavely higher total WD, not because of their total Scaling. same for BLM.
    i know how it works, i've seen their total physical damage being lower than us casters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunako View Post
    Do anybody have any info what is SMN stat weights 3.0?
    i posted it like 2 pages back go look for it
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  7. #747
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    You can't "scale" stats like that. The 3.0 Slummoner functions completely differently than the 2.0 Summoner.

    Stat weights are calculated based on their rotational impact. They're never scaled equally across all Jobs.

    But yes, MD will always weigh less on DoMs as their magic damage is high and the original Stat-Weight metmethodology adds the impact of AA_DMG with WD.

    DoMs don't use their AAs.
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    Last edited by Dervy; 08-02-2015 at 05:49 PM.

  8. #748
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    Even assuming 1 WD = 10 INT. The chest + 210 gloves will still be ahead.

    And for progressing Savage, you won't be able to get the 210 weapon until you clear A4S, making the 210 chest the better choice for progression.
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    Last edited by OneWingedSora; 08-02-2015 at 05:56 PM.
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  9. #749
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWingedSora View Post
    Even assuming 1 WD = 10 INT. The chest + 210 gloves will still be ahead.

    And for progressing Savage, you won't be able to get the 210 weapon until you clear A4S, making the 210 chest the better choice for progression.
    And how to you go about acquiring said chest when you cannot upgrade until beating A3S? In the current state of progression, the highest immediate upgrade is what matters. I don't play a caster, so I cannot attest for their weight or damage numbers, but you cannot start using examples from something that only 2 groups in the world have any access to.
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  10. #750
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimm08 View Post
    And how to you go about acquiring said chest when you cannot upgrade until beating A3S? In the current state of progression, the highest immediate upgrade is what matters. I don't play a caster, so I cannot attest for their weight or damage numbers, but you cannot start using examples from something that only 2 groups in the world have any access to.
    Because I am assuming more groups will start clearing A3S next week. And having the 210 chest + 210 ring will be better than having 200 weapon for A4S.
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