Take away the MP cost on our attacks

[Vackashken]

I'm sorry, which ones are the "tough" NMs? I ask because I've tanked all of the high-rank NMs without healing myself beyond using Second Wind, and I did so successfully.

That notwithstanding, though, you almost had a point. I say "almost" because you're still claiming that MP goes down too fast when you're not casting spells. While I absolutely agree that the MP cost needs to go, the only time I've ever run into MP problems was when I was trying to do the casters' jobs. . .

I quoted tough because there are none really, just ones that take more time then others. And again my point remains, because you disagree with me is meaningless and has nothing to do with the point of the thread. Also, I don't believe you in even the slightest way that you've never tossed a heal on yourself if you've tanked or on others as an off tank for emergencies.

Flat out I'm calling you a liar and there is literally nothing you can troll on about to change that. Never given yourself a heal because its purely a casters job... troll on trolly.

[Viridiana]

I quoted tough because there are none really, just ones that take more time then others. And again my point remains, because you disagree with me is meaningless and has nothing to do with the point of the thread. Also, I don't believe you in even the slightest way that you've never tossed a heal on yourself if you've tanked or on others as an off tank for emergencies.

Flat out I'm calling you a liar and there is literally nothing you can troll on about to change that. Never given yourself a heal because its purely a casters job... troll on trolly.

Never said I haven't healed others. I'm not sure if you noticed, but non-tanking PGLs wind up with a bit of downtime in the rank 45 dungeon. Enough time to, say, regenerate MP spent healing the tank if the healers ask for help. If I'm tanking, though? Second Wind, and that's it.

Also, I like how disagreeing with you makes me a troll. Whatever else you might think of me, believe me when I say that my ventures into trolling involve a hell of a lot more sarcasm than this.

[Vackashken]

Never said I haven't healed others. I'm not sure if you noticed, but non-tanking PGLs wind up with a bit of downtime in the rank 45 dungeon. Enough time to, say, regenerate MP spent healing the tank if the healers ask for help. If I'm tanking, though? Second Wind, and that's it.

Also, I like how disagreeing with you makes me a troll. Whatever else you might think of me, believe me when I say that my ventures into trolling involve a hell of a lot more sarcasm than this.

Never said I haven't healed others. I'm not sure if you noticed, but non-tanking PGLs wind up with a bit of downtime in the rank 45 dungeon. Enough time to, say, regenerate MP spent healing the tank if the healers ask for help. If I'm tanking, though? Second Wind, and that's it.

Again, you either lying or completely incompetent to say I only heal with second wind and second wind alone when I am tanking. Having Cure and Sac2 is a must for anything and everything that could happen. As I said reality - not some theoretical troll babble about how healers should only heal EVER. And again, as I first insinuated if you happen to have to heal yourself (or others in your sudden turn-around) you drastically reduce your combat potential because of the bizzare MP cost.

In no way did I imply or say tanks should being healing themselves - I pointed out the disadvantage of emergency situations touching upon MP use taking away from our attacks.

Also, I like how disagreeing with you makes me a troll. Whatever else you might think of me, believe me when I say that my ventures into trolling involve a hell of a lot more sarcasm than this.

No, disagreeing with me doesn't make you a troll.Saying something compounded in idiocy and falsehood (I NEVER heal when I tank EVAAAAR) and going on about it when the point of the thread has nothing to do with it makes you a troll, trolly.

move along

[Viridiana]

Again, you either lying or completely incompetent to say I only heal with second wind and second wind alone when I am tanking. Having Cure and Sac2 is a must for anything and everything that could happen. As I said reality - not some theoretical troll babble about how healers should only heal EVER. And again, as I first insinuated if you happen to have to heal yourself (or others in your sudden turn-around) you drastically reduce your combat potential because of the bizzare MP cost.

In no way did I imply or say tanks should being healing themselves - I pointed out the disadvantage of emergency situations touching upon MP use taking away from our attacks.



No, disagreeing with me doesn't make you a troll.Saying something compounded in idiocy and falsehood (I NEVER heal when I tank EVAAAAR) and going on about it when the point of the thread has nothing to do with it makes you a troll, trolly.

move along

Your first two paragraphs contradict each other. First you say that Cure II and Sac II are must-haves for situations that arise, then you say that you've never implied or said that tanks should be healing themselves. Nevermind your post from earlier talking about being hit for 1k+ and having to heal, thereby reducing your offensive options. Maybe I'm missing something, but it sounds an awful lot like you're saying tanks should heal themselves.What was that about saying things "compounded in idiocy and falsehood"?

[Vackashken]

Your first two paragraphs contradict each other. First you say that Cure II and Sac II are must-haves for situations that arise, then you say that you've never implied or said that tanks should be healing themselves. Nevermind your post from earlier talking about being hit for 1k+ and having to heal, thereby reducing your offensive options. Maybe I'm missing something, but it sounds an awful lot like you're saying tanks should heal themselves.What was that about saying things "compounded in idiocy and falsehood"?

Shhh, move along troll. Stop derailing the thread - your reading comprehension is your problem - not everyone talking about the point of the thread. Stop trying to be "right" - its not going to happen for you.

[Viridiana]

Shhh, move along troll. Stop derailing the thread - your reading comprehension is your problem - not everyone talking about the point of the thread. Stop trying to be "right" - its not going to happen for you.

Heaven forbid I ask you go get your story straight.

[Vackashken]

Heaven forbid I ask you go get your story straight.

Or that as I implied later things are dynamic and sometimes - just sometimes - you might have to heal yourself or some such drastically taking away your combat ability and evasion quickly. You're the fool that took an idea and made it literal by imply I said a tank must heal all the time even though several times over I said its about healing utility - and that utility is hampered because it crushes your melee output. Something no other class has to deal with.

Sorry troll - you looked for a fight with lies (a tank NEVER HEALS) bizarrely literally interpretations of... something/somehow and you're still going on about it. This is why I was and am dismissive of you. Your post are foolish and I've explained my position several times over that the utility of healing drastically effects the combat output like no other class. While you imply that a tank should never ever EVER heal itself - and somehow my post insinuated that I... think... a tank... should always heal itself? Brilliant analysis, lol.

Like I said before, run along - your trolling is sub-par and I'd like to actually, I dunno, talk about the merits of the post rather then read your presumptuous asinine babble about... something.