Take away the MP cost on our attacks

[Coglin]

I dont mind the mp cost, but it seems obsurd that pugilist which appears to use the most mp out of all the DoW abilities has the smallest mp pool

What do you have to support this ????

What I have to refute this is a copy/paste of a dev post post :

"Mind (MND)
Reduces damage taken from magic attacks
Increases maximum MP
Healing effectiveness
(For Disciples of War 1 mind = 2-3 MP. For Disciples of magic, 1 mind = 9-10 MP)"

At no point have I seen any information to suppot the fact that once DoW class get more MP over another.

[Physic]

What do you have to support this ????

What I have to refute this is a copy/paste of a dev post post :

"Mind (MND)
Reduces damage taken from magic attacks
Increases maximum MP
Healing effectiveness
(For Disciples of War 1 mind = 2-3 MP. For Disciples of magic, 1 mind = 9-10 MP)"

At no point have I seen any information to suppot the fact that once DoW class get more MP over another.

where does that post come from? is it from after 1.18?

yeah i logged in and checked, and your wrong,
48 pug 392 mp
35 lnc 419 mp
34 marauder 248 mp
23 archer 323 mp

as i remembered, every class gets different mp based on their class. and testing out, it also effects the rate of mana regen, as i remembered, whether that be based on mind or max mp i dunno, but in either case mana regen is effected so yeah.

pug getting mp cost makes no sense. their mp rate either the lowest or next to the lowest

[AlphaDragoon]

Yeah...MP cost on our basic attacks is pretty lame. We don't even get anything major out of it. Meanwhile, you've got the OP Lancers with the highest MP pool of any DoW and ZERO MP cost on any of their moveset.

[Vackashken]

This is why I leave the healing to the healers.

lol, OK.

What do you have to support this ????

What I have to refute this is a copy/paste of a dev post post :

"Mind (MND)
Reduces damage taken from magic attacks
Increases maximum MP
Healing effectiveness
(For Disciples of War 1 mind = 2-3 MP. For Disciples of magic, 1 mind = 9-10 MP)"

At no point have I seen any information to suppot the fact that once DoW class get more MP over another.

You're flat out wrong. Different classes have different MP pools.

[Eruantien]

What do you have to support this ????

What I have to refute this is a copy/paste of a dev post post :

"Mind (MND)
Reduces damage taken from magic attacks
Increases maximum MP
Healing effectiveness
(For Disciples of War 1 mind = 2-3 MP. For Disciples of magic, 1 mind = 9-10 MP)"

At no point have I seen any information to suppot the fact that once DoW class get more MP over another.

my lnc rank 50 has 530 mp, my rank 50 pug has 420 and archers at rank 50 have more than my pug as well, so quite alot of evidence

thats like saying glad has the same hp's than arch because hp is calculated from vit -.-

[Viridiana]

lol, OK.

What, no faith in your healers' abilities to do their jobs?

[Vackashken]

What, no faith in your healers' abilities to do their jobs?

Or I ignored your meaningless post because it had nothing to do with what I was talking about as a whole? You figure it out

[ZachCero]

I do agree, I recently started playing pug and hit r30. But I'm not too happy about having pummel, light strike, seismic shock I&II costs mp to use. Keeping stygian and resting here n there is the only cure, cause you cant really spam something that has a cooldown already...

[Viridiana]

Or I ignored your meaningless post because it had nothing to do with what I was talking about as a whole? You figure it out

Umm. . . you complain about the MP cost on your abilities taking away your ability to cure yourself. I point out that if you leave the healing to the healers, you should have 0 MP problems. You ignore me because. . . ?

Does the MP cost need to go? Yes. Should you be running into MP problems? No.

[Coglin]

To answer the question, my copy/paste info came from an "ask the devs" I believe it was. I have not actually paid attention to know if it had changed.

Anyone care to test the HP/MP gain per each point added to Vit/Mnd for each class ?

As far as the MP usage goes. I do agree that it follows a more logical for magic abilities to use only MP and physical attacks to use TP.