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    karateorangutang's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanaho View Post
    i stopped at 3, people were just rehashing old arguments over and over hoping the shit would stick to the wall finally, it doesn't. people are clearing A1 and 2 savage and almost downing 3 with PLD+DRK compositions. WAR's arent needed, we're a part of the pie, not a nessesary piece
    NEEDED is not the argument. You can probably do anything soon with any composition but thats not the argument. Its not optimal to bring PLD/DRK for anything currently. Any group that doesn't have tanks that are sticks in the mud are gonna bring at least one WAR to a raid. SE/SP > than any other utility that any other tank offers.

    If this is your opinion then that is fine. If your stating it as a fact then back it up with some info.
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    Palamula Anamaleth
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    Quote Originally Posted by karateorangutang View Post
    NEEDED is not the argument. You can probably do anything soon with any composition but thats not the argument. Its not optimal to bring PLD/DRK for anything currently. Any group that doesn't have tanks that are sticks in the mud are gonna bring at least one WAR to a raid. SE/SP > than any other utility that any other tank offers.

    If this is your opinion then that is fine. If your stating it as a fact then back it up with some info.
    you want to talk optimal? Fine, it's not optimal to bring BRD or Machinist either in DPS checks, are those unbalanced and broken? No? okay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanaho View Post
    you want to talk optimal? Fine, it's not optimal to bring BRD or Machinist either in DPS checks, are those unbalanced and broken? No? okay.
    Duh.... They need fixes too. Thats not even the topic of this thread.

    Are you gonna offer a real argument or just troll?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanaho View Post
    you want to talk optimal? Fine, it's not optimal to bring BRD or Machinist either in DPS checks, are those unbalanced and broken? No? okay.
    A lot of ppl on the dps forum would disagree (not all obviously). BRD/MCH are only brought for one reason-- MP/TP regen. They're pretty much just a battery. Which is why you'll most likely never see more than one in any savage group.
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