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    Quote Originally Posted by karateorangutang View Post
    ..... balanced... sure. I'm not even gonna venture into this one. Read the last nine pages. They are any thing but on equal footing currently.
    i stopped at 3, people were just rehashing old arguments over and over hoping the shit would stick to the wall finally, it doesn't. people are clearing A1 and 2 savage and almost downing 3 with PLD+DRK compositions. WAR's arent needed, we're a part of the pie, not a nessesary piece
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanaho View Post
    i stopped at 3, people were just rehashing old arguments over and over hoping the shit would stick to the wall finally, it doesn't. people are clearing A1 and 2 savage and almost downing 3 with PLD+DRK compositions. WAR's arent needed, we're a part of the pie, not a nessesary piece
    NEEDED is not the argument. You can probably do anything soon with any composition but thats not the argument. Its not optimal to bring PLD/DRK for anything currently. Any group that doesn't have tanks that are sticks in the mud are gonna bring at least one WAR to a raid. SE/SP > than any other utility that any other tank offers.

    If this is your opinion then that is fine. If your stating it as a fact then back it up with some info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by karateorangutang View Post
    NEEDED is not the argument. You can probably do anything soon with any composition but thats not the argument. Its not optimal to bring PLD/DRK for anything currently. Any group that doesn't have tanks that are sticks in the mud are gonna bring at least one WAR to a raid. SE/SP > than any other utility that any other tank offers.

    If this is your opinion then that is fine. If your stating it as a fact then back it up with some info.
    you want to talk optimal? Fine, it's not optimal to bring BRD or Machinist either in DPS checks, are those unbalanced and broken? No? okay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanaho View Post
    you want to talk optimal? Fine, it's not optimal to bring BRD or Machinist either in DPS checks, are those unbalanced and broken? No? okay.
    Duh.... They need fixes too. Thats not even the topic of this thread.

    Are you gonna offer a real argument or just troll?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanaho View Post
    you want to talk optimal? Fine, it's not optimal to bring BRD or Machinist either in DPS checks, are those unbalanced and broken? No? okay.
    A lot of ppl on the dps forum would disagree (not all obviously). BRD/MCH are only brought for one reason-- MP/TP regen. They're pretty much just a battery. Which is why you'll most likely never see more than one in any savage group.
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    At the end of the day, it's the Official Forums, the NA one at that. People whine and whine and whine here, it's where the vocal minority get their frustration out by rallying together with the other minor few who bother to waste their time in here, or are like me, at work and bored and lookin for people to make fun of

    WAR is fine. they arent going to change it. PLD wont change, DRK may see a buff or some changes to their CD synergy, since Evasion buff on a Parry reliant Tank makes no real sense. Other then that you're all throwing leaves in the wind, it'll fall on deaf ears <3 Have fun arguing over nothing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanaho View Post
    At the end of the day, it's the Official Forums, the NA one at that. People whine and whine and whine here, it's where the vocal minority get their frustration out by rallying together with the other minor few who bother to waste their time in here, or are like me, at work and bored and lookin for people to make fun of

    WAR is fine. they arent going to change it. PLD wont change, DRK may see a buff or some changes to their CD synergy, since Evasion buff on a Parry reliant Tank makes no real sense. Other then that you're all throwing leaves in the wind, it'll fall on deaf ears <3 Have fun arguing over nothing
    Good argument. Next time bring an argument. Citing SE wont fix it cause they don't care is ineffectual, silly, and ignorant. Thanks for the lol's on your posts though.

    Addtionally,

    NOONE IN THIS THREAD IS SAYING WAR IS BAD!!
    NOONE IS SAYING THEY SHOULD BE NERFED IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM!!

    We are discussing outside of the box ways to bring the other 2 tanks inline with War so that people can play the class the want to play and not the class that they are being requested to play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by karateorangutang View Post
    Good argument. Next time bring an argument. Citing SE wont fix it cause they don't care is ineffectual, silly, and ignorant. Thanks for the lol's on your posts though.

    Addtionally,

    NOONE IN THIS THREAD IS SAYING WAR IS BAD!!
    NOONE IS SAYING THEY SHOULD BE NERFED IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM!!

    We are discussing outside of the box ways to bring the other 2 tanks inline with War so that people can play the class the want to play and not the class that they are being requested to play.
    lololol, Caps lock, Cruise control for "im right you're wrong neener neener"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanaho View Post
    lololol, Caps lock, Cruise control for "im right you're wrong neener neener"
    Ok, now you are trolling.

    Good day.
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