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  1. #291
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    MrCookTM's Avatar
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    Cryss Cook
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    Cerberus
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    Ninja Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ritas View Post
    So, I think i'm doing something wrong. Using the opener from the OP of this thread and continuing with the usual rotation, weaving in all the ogcds when they come up, I get like 1060-1080 over 3:45 to 4:00 minutes. This is my gear (if it's not already updated, i've got the law hands by now). I don't have the party buff or use potions/poisons/food.

    I get that the Ravana weapon would boost me abit, but I doubt it compensates for the 100+ dps that I'm missing. Any more info I could give to help me? Any tips?
    You still have a ton of unupgraded 170 pieces, that and no hive weapon easily makes a difference of 100+. Your numbers are fine.
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  2. #292
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    Ricdeau Cyton
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    Gilgamesh
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    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by MrCookTM View Post
    You still have a ton of unupgraded 170 pieces, that and no hive weapon easily makes a difference of 100+. Your numbers are fine.
    Exactly as said above, with 7 pieces that are still i170 and and the i180 weapon your DPS is fine. I think you underestimate how much of a gain these pieces are going to increase your DPS, Ritas. 17 STR and 2 WD (not even factoring in secondaries) is quite a lot.
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  3. #293
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    Ritas Zahard
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    Shiva
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    White Mage Lv 60
    I guess I'll focus on getting those pieces upgraded and see how the numbers develop, then. Thanks for the advice.
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  4. #294
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    Geaux Getta
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    So a Monk told me it's a dps increase if you dump TK everytime it's up when you can transfer right back to GL 1......

    It sounds really silly but I thought I'd ask.
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  5. #295
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    monchkinz's Avatar
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    Enma Hellbringer
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    Sephirot
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    Alchemist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Geaux View Post
    So a Monk told me it's a dps increase if you dump TK everytime it's up when you can transfer right back to GL 1......

    It sounds really silly but I thought I'd ask.
    I believe its a small increase... IF you have pb ready to get you back up. Otherwise i think its a dps loss. Basically, you would use it in coeurl form as well. Repeating your opener. I believe someone has done the math here in the thread.

    Personally i wouldnt, only because TK is a skill that you use in special situations and there are a lot of those situations throughout end game. And i prefer having pb up in case mechanics even with form shift, makes me lose gl.
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    Last edited by monchkinz; 07-31-2015 at 06:20 AM.

  6. #296
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    Zamii's Avatar
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    Zami Terrechant
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    Tonberry
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    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by monchkinz View Post
    I believe its a small increase... IF you have pb ready to get you back up. Otherwise i think its a dps loss. Basically, you would use it in coeurl form as well. Repeating your opener. I believe someone has done the math here in the thread.

    Personally i wouldnt, only because TK is a skill that you use in special situations and there are a lot of those situations throughout end game. And i prefer having pb up in case mechanics even with form shift, makes me lose gl.
    i did a fully mathed out one with auto attacks and attack speed factored in on the old thread, and it was only a tiny increase at 500 potency, when we only had details from the France interview, now that we know its 330 potency its a definite loss in dps.

    it is however beneficial to use it with perfect balance, assuming you dont need to save it, and then using the opener after TK
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  7. #297
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    Sigmakan Kaph
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    Hyperion
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    Ninja Lv 80
    Would be great if MNK had some raid utility. Other DPS seem to do the same damage as monk but have much more utility.
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  8. #298
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    Enma Hellbringer
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    Alchemist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Zamii View Post
    i did a fully mathed out one with auto attacks and attack speed factored in on the old thread, and it was only a tiny increase at 500 potency, when we only had details from the France interview, now that we know its 330 potency its a definite loss in dps.

    it is however beneficial to use it with perfect balance, assuming you dont need to save it, and then using the opener after TK
    Oh I see, I thought it was with the 330 potency. Welp makes my point even right to just save it for right situations.
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  9. #299
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    Richter Cade
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    Alpha
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    Reaper Lv 100
    [QUOTE=dragonflie;3186809[/QUOTE]

    About that.

    You're correct, preys are physical, and foresight lowers the damage but for monk it's trivial. Foresight is based on defence and monk defence isn't high enough to get any decent reduction from it at all and certainly not the 40% or so you were describing.

    Prey also can be parried, I can confirm this as a Warrior main. I used raw Intuition to parry 6 in a row. The bad news is that it's weird at the minute. Other times I don't parry any. After a few tests I noticed that I parried none of the first three during one prey, yet I parried the next three by turning to face the left instead of directly at my oppressor. As far as I can tell the direction you must face to parry a prey has no correlation with the oppressors themselves. Even stranger, it never crits me even when using raw Intuition and facing a direction that does not parry them.

    This bears testing to be honest. There has to be something I'm missing.
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  10. #300
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    Siris Ausar
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    Leviathan
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    Ninja Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sigmakan View Post
    Would be great if MNK had some raid utility. Other DPS seem to do the same damage as monk but have much more utility.
    I think you're underestimating the usefulness of dragon kick and mantra. You are slightly ahead of NIN but far behind DRG which is pretty blatantly bad for both NIN and MNK. Due to the current balance of the game both of these classes are trying to compete for one of the melee dps spots since the other is reserved for DRG.
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