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    Phireblast's Avatar
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    Mike Fisticuffison
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    Famfrit
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    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by GoToSleep View Post
    Mind if I ask what's the current Meta opener? I just got back into the game and I quit a long time ago and I main Monk at that time. I'm looking to play Monk again so I would love to know good openers. There's 2 openers listed in the first post of the thread but I don't know which one to follow.
    Everyone and their Grandmother uses the demo>pb opener exclusively, but I use both depending on the fight.

    If the boss does have a mechanic that forces you to not attack it very soon after the pull, I use the demo>pb one.

    If the boss doesn't, I use the snap>pb one.

    That's just me though.
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    Sparda Redfox
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Phireblast View Post
    Everyone and their Grandmother uses the demo>pb opener exclusively, but I use both depending on the fight.

    If the boss does have a mechanic that forces you to not attack it very soon after the pull, I use the demo>pb one.

    If the boss doesn't, I use the snap>pb one.

    That's just me though.
    I just looked at the openers and I have a question with this particular one:

    (PB) Demo --> Snap --> Snap (B4B) --> DK (IR) --> TwS (Pot) --> ToD (Elixir Field) --> Boot (Steel Peak) --> True (Howling Fist) --> Snap

    (Forbidden C) --> DK --> TWS --> Demo (Pot falls off).

    Does this opener not include a coeurl form shit and just shoulder tackle? The other opener on the front page I saw starts off at Snap Punch so I can safely assume that this opener uses coeurl form shift pre pull then shoulder tackle and then the opener.
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    Last edited by GoToSleep; 03-10-2016 at 03:58 AM.

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    SunnyHirose's Avatar
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    Sunny Hirose
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Before you get too excited, consider that you also lose GL on autos briefly, the guaranteed crit on the Bootshine after PB, a Coeurl form GCD (net gain ~1 instead of the ~2 it appears to be), potentially DK/Twin alignment, and almost certainly some DoT uptime (monk DoTs have this shrinky stretchy thing going...). It's a short term gain like I'm sure most of us have suspected, and most likely an overall gain (haven't gotten around to checking, the above factors I listed should be enough indication of why I've procrastinated on that...), but it's not really 300 potency.

    And the TK opener seems really impractical to me but I suppose it might squeeze a little extra on SSS if you really get it right (but then again, it's also probably not what SE had in mind...). I'm 100% sure a spreadsheet rotation listing every move for 3 minutes can answer that conclusively, at least.
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    Last edited by SunnyHirose; 03-07-2016 at 05:14 PM.
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    Al Blowface
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    Tonberry
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Fiddled around with ariyala aiming for 723 acc and with materia melds this seems to be the best I could work out for a BiS, thoughts anyone?
    ffxiv.ariyala.com/T4AC
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    Greywolf Amakir
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by lunzlunz View Post
    Fiddled around with ariyala aiming for 723 acc and with materia melds this seems to be the best I could work out for a BiS, thoughts anyone?
    ffxiv.ariyala.com/T4AC
    802 Skill Speed...looks pretty high, maybe TP issues during progress.
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    Kaden Sun
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Stacking Battle Litany with Hypercharge while giving the Machinist a Piercing Vulnerability Debuff
    Paladin, Warrior, White Mage, Scholar, Monk, Dragoon, Black Mage, Machinist

    Warrior, Dark Knight, White Mage, Scholar, Monk, Dragoon, Black Mage, Machinist
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    Al Blowface
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    Tonberry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greywolfamakir View Post
    802 Skill Speed...looks pretty high, maybe TP issues during progress.
    Yeah it isn't ideal but this tier I think most builds will have us sitting at btwn 700 to 800. At least in a5s (cleared) I only ran out towards the very end though. With how a6s is looking to shouldn't be that big an issue (at 3rd boss).

    I'd ideally like to know what sks let's me squeeze out an extra gcd at every individual phase but monks are so rare this tier
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    Nako Yasua
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    Odin
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    Monk Lv 60
    This is my prebis list, excluding savage gear, ~1023 crit, 600 skill speed and 685 accuracy (you can get more acc via melds or adding savage accesories)
    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/T649
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    Ossom Possom
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    Adamantoise
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    Armorer Lv 53
    A5s it is probably better to start with Demo > Snap > Snap, or atleast Snap > Demo > Snap, because you only can reliably only get 2 GCDs off before he gets big and gets that huge Defensive Buff.

    I've been experimenting with

    PB > Demo > Forbidden > Snap, I might instead try Pb > Demo > Howling Fists > Snap or Pb > Demo > Elixir Field > Snap though
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