Monk 3.0 CHAKRA UNLEASHED

[Buckles]

Changing gears a little bit, what is everyone's opinion in the Monk Esoterics Weapon vs the Hive weaponfor Savage Alex progression purposes.

The hive has the perfect balance of stats, being high in crit and lower in det. The eso has zero det but 9 more strength (equal to about 36 det equivalent, right?) but is heavy in crit and with some SS.

I hear everyone should get weapons first for savage progression, but with only 2 physical damage increase and 9 more strength, is it worth losing the perfect combo of secondary stats on the Hive weapon?

[Ricdeau]

Changing gears a little bit, what is everyone's opinion in the Monk Esoterics Weapon vs the Hive weaponfor Savage Alex progression purposes.

The hive has the perfect balance of stats, being high in crit and lower in det. The eso has zero det but 9 more strength (equal to about 36 det equivalent, right?) but is heavy in crit and with some SS.

I hear everyone should get weapons first for savage progression, but with only 2 physical damage increase and 9 more strength, is it worth losing the perfect combo of secondary stats on the Hive weapon?

2 weapon damage alone is worth a huge amount, but you couple that with 9 more STR and it's just flat out no contest. That difference is huge. Since we pretty fresh at 60 we haven't had time for secondaries to get to the point where we were at in 2.x. Eventually the value of secondaries will start climbing back up, but right now and always 2 WD is a big deal not even to mention the 9 STR.

So long story short, weapon weapon weapon...always weapon first.

[Craiger]

Changing gears a little bit, what is everyone's opinion in the Monk Esoterics Weapon vs the Hive weaponfor Savage Alex progression purposes.

The hive has the perfect balance of stats, being high in crit and lower in det. The eso has zero det but 9 more strength (equal to about 36 det equivalent, right?) but is heavy in crit and with some SS.

I hear everyone should get weapons first for savage progression, but with only 2 physical damage increase and 9 more strength, is it worth losing the perfect combo of secondary stats on the Hive weapon?

Sadly, at the moment there isn't many higher ilvl gear pieces that is worse than lower ilvl pieces. Secondaries, as have been mentioned, gives a lot less now relative to 2.X.

Unless something gives Accuracy, and you don't need that accuracy, the main stat will make the higher ilvl gear better anyways. Even with accuracy, they can give more weighted stats than lower ilvl gear that have 0 accuracy.

Weapons don't have accuracy anymore, so it's impossible for a lower ilvl weapon to be even close to a higher ilvl one.

DET has been nerfed a lot in the expansion, while Crit got buffed, so our best guess right now is just to see them as equal.

Because Det isn't miles ahead of SS, the Esoteric weapon gives more Weighted STR than the Hive weapon, even if you don't include the weapon damage... With the weapon damage, it blows it out of the water by a long-shot.

[Humorless]

Changing gears a little bit, what is everyone's opinion in the Monk Esoterics Weapon vs the Hive weaponfor Savage Alex progression purposes.

The hive has the perfect balance of stats, being high in crit and lower in det. The eso has zero det but 9 more strength (equal to about 36 det equivalent, right?) but is heavy in crit and with some SS.

I hear everyone should get weapons first for savage progression, but with only 2 physical damage increase and 9 more strength, is it worth losing the perfect combo of secondary stats on the Hive weapon?

DET got nerfed hard, 36 DET isn't even close to 9 STR. `


i200 weap is much better. Upgraded is BiS, no reason not to get it now.

[Hitoseijuro]

But Im kinda wondering, since in A2 I can easly compete with BLM (Ninja, DRG, MCN and BRD AoE are nothing compared to me) and the only class that is unreachable is SMN but thats not a suprise. So yeah, have I always been with failers in the group and Monk AoE isnt that great..?

No, monk should be pretty much beating out all the jobs on A2, aside from smn, and easily able to keep up with blm if not beat out a blm. Make sure to ride your invigorate timers and only use chakra for purification(ride that timer too). You should have no problem doing over 1100+(mileage will vary depending on how good the group is and group buffs) dps in that raid. I would only use PB+rockbreaker spam if you have a brd and is currently putting up paeon for a few tics as you'll run your tp sustain dry otherwise.

The only problem with monk vs the other jobs currently is that it doesnt offer any group offensive buffs.

[Humorless]

No, monk should be pretty much beating out all the jobs on A2, aside from smn, and easily able to keep up with blm if not beat out a blm. Make sure to ride your invigorate timers and only use chakra for purification(ride that timer too). You should have no problem doing over 1100+(mileage will vary depending on how good the group is and group buffs) dps in that raid. I would only use PB+rockbreaker spam if you have a brd and is currently putting up paeon for a few tics as you'll run your tp sustain dry otherwise.

The only problem with monk vs the other jobs currently is that it doesnt offer any group offensive buffs.

Huh? Regardless of your group you should be at 1300ish, self-sustained TP. With some luck (depending on vulnerability stacks, how mobs are grouped and missed positionals) you'll go over 1400. If you do get TP song/turret 1500 isn't that hard.


I personally haven't killed it yet (lack of raiding time last week but got wave 9 multiple times) but I'm consistently sitting around 1350 on the parser after wiping (so it drops) and I'm not using STR potions. That's 4 invigorates and 2 purifications I think. No TP song from the bard since the healers need it more and it allows the SMN to have a field day.


Even if you don't use Rockbreaker once you'll be high. You do 1200 single target which gets boosted by vulnerability and Elixer field/Howling Fist are often hitting 4+ targets. Even with the little downtime here and there you should not drop to 1100.

[Daega]

http://i.imgur.com/ynysj56.png

I think it was already asked, but what paser has this ui overlay?

[Ricdeau]

I think it was already asked, but what paser has this ui overlay?

It's ACT, but they have a different mini parse overlay. You can see some different examples below:

https://github.com/billyvg/OverlayPlugin-themes

[Daega]

It's ACT, but they have a different mini parse overlay. You can see some different examples below:

https://github.com/billyvg/OverlayPlugin-themes

Awesome tytytyvm!

[Ritas]

So, I think i'm doing something wrong. Using the opener from the OP of this thread and continuing with the usual rotation, weaving in all the ogcds when they come up, I get like 1060-1080 over 3:45 to 4:00 minutes. This is my gear (if it's not already updated, i've got the law hands by now). I don't have the party buff or use potions/poisons/food.

I get that the Ravana weapon would boost me abit, but I doubt it compensates for the 100+ dps that I'm missing. Any more info I could give to help me? Any tips?