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  1. #271
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashaylin View Post
    Lol.

    It means that things will go on as they do now. Loot items will have rank requirement. Crafted gear retains optimal rank status. They'll exist side by side.
    I'm fine with this but stating both within the same paragraph like that, specifically mentioning that "Crafted gear will change" still makes me suspicious that optimal will be slowly weaned out of the system and replaced with new recipes that are the same, but with a required rank status. :S Hope I'm wrong though...Just seemed to be a funny thing to post side by side....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    Yeah that ^
    Cool signature, btw!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    Sorry guys, it seems there was some miscommunication earlier on this, and it took awhile to clarify the situation. I've updated my original post in the thread and will copy it here for viability. This was speaking specifically to NM and other content-related gear, and not a blanket removal of the Optimal Rank system. I really apologize for the confusion my post caused!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne
    Moving forward, gear that is introduced from notorious monsters and other such content will have requirements placed on them as we will be phasing out the "Optimal Rank" system for that loot. With new recipes being introduced in 1.19, the old recipes will be lost and it will not be possible to make that specific piece of gear anymore going forward. (For example, please see [dev1016] where it shows the change from a Hempen Doublet to a Hempen Doublet Vest)
    I also added in details about the recipe changes, too (which can be seen in the dev1016 thread).
    The bolded parts are the most important ones! D:

    Edit: I feel compelled to ask, did you do that on purpose?
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    Last edited by Arcell; 09-02-2011 at 09:35 AM.

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    I honestly think both systems can easily co-exist, and that it's best idea overall. That way you don't have people with multiple crafts getting completely screwed because all their classes aren't all the exact same level, and so on.

    As for whiners going "well this means nubs will still wear high rank gear!", I think if SE simply would put in a clear visual representation of the stats you're losing by not being optimal, more folks would take it into account. In addition, once stats are fixed next patch wearing non-optimal gear is probably going to matter a lot more.
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  4. #274
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    But...But Bay! What does a crafted piece of gear have to do with the required status on looted gear? ; A;
    Nothing I hope. Nothing I hope. Nothing I hope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    Yeah that ^
    Cool signature, btw!
    Not you, Oscillate_Wildly.
    Not you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscillate_Wildly View Post
    I wish we could insert gifs, so I could just dump my entire dance collection under a cut. But I'm still suspicious. Does this mean all future raid/looted gear will resemble the Alpine War Jacket in that it has specific requirements? I'm ok with that.

    So I think I might need to go look at this dev post but I'm not entirely understanding what that means.

    because it still sounds like all current gear that exists will retain its Optimal Rank status, but all future versions that will be created from a point in time will be made to have a Required rank status. :S
    I think what they mean is NM related crafted gear like Silver Tricorne, Dodore Doublet, etc... Things that required parts from NMs or related content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscillate_Wildly View Post
    I'm fine with this but stating both within the same paragraph like that, specifically mentioning that "Crafted gear will change" still makes me suspicious that optimal will be slowly weaned out of the system and replaced with new recipes that are the same, but with a required rank status. :S Hope I'm wrong though...Just seemed to be a funny thing to post side by side....
    Bay is posting about two different things OW. He just simply said them together in the same paragraph so it could be confusing I guess.

    Loot gear and rank:
    Moving forward, gear that is introduced from notorious monsters and other such content will have requirements placed on them as we will be phasing out the "Optimal Rank" system for that loot.
    Introduction of new recipes, so old items will soon phase out (because you can't make them anymore):
    With new recipes being introduced in 1.19, the old recipes will be lost and it will not be possible to make that specific piece of gear anymore going forward. (For example, please see [dev1016] where it shows the change from a Hempen Doublet to a Hempen Doublet Vest)
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  7. #277
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    Alright, seeing as this is a thread on Required Ranked gear, it was a little awkwardly placed. O:< But I'm reasonable and will give the post the benefit of the doubt and accept that it's really about two different things.

    That said, I am pleased.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    Yeah that ^
    Cool signature, btw!
    Not you, Oscillate_Wildly.
    Not you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    Sorry guys, it seems there was some miscommunication earlier on this, and it took awhile to clarify the situation. I've updated my original post in the thread and will copy it here for viability. This was speaking specifically to NM and other content-related gear, and not a blanket removal of the Optimal Rank system. I really apologize for the confusion my post caused!



    I also added in details about the recipe changes, too (which can be seen in the dev1016 thread).
    Lol, I'm secretly hoping we get a post like this regarding claim system, haha..
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeowyWowie View Post
    Lol, I'm secretly hoping we get a post like this regarding claim system, haha..
    Ahahaha, I'm still too horrified by the idea of what it is that I'm too scared to go look at the newest highlights. nyegghhh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    Yeah that ^
    Cool signature, btw!
    Not you, Oscillate_Wildly.
    Not you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashaylin View Post
    Bay is posting about two different things OW. He just simply said them together in the same paragraph so it could be confusing I guess.
    Yeah that ^
    Cool signature, btw!
    Not you, Oscillate_Wildly.
    Not you.
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