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    Quote Originally Posted by Leiloni View Post
    So if it all goes away with one cast of one skill, then the more mature thing to do would be to just cast the skill and get on with it. Learn to pick your battles. Sometimes you don't need to be right and it's just better to relax and make everyone happy. Only children feel like they have to "win" everything.
    It's not a matter of "winning", but I really dislike the concept that if someone is a jerk and wants to push us around, we should just let them have their way.

    Even when it's just small, trivial things, it's a behavior that we should discourage, not encourage by always "being mature" and folding to them just because they got pushy about it. That's pretty much what jerks and bullies in all walks of life count on: that people will just always back down and give them their way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bovinity View Post
    It's not a matter of "winning", but I really dislike the concept that if someone is a jerk and wants to push us around, we should just let them have their way.

    Even when it's just small, trivial things, it's a behavior that we should discourage, not encourage by always "being mature" and folding to them just because they got pushy about it. That's pretty much what jerks and bullies in all walks of life count on: that people will just always back down and give them their way.
    Asking if they can have Protect is not being a jerk. It's a perfectly reasonable request.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leiloni View Post
    Asking if they can have Protect is not being a jerk. It's a perfectly reasonable request.
    It is when they'll go so far as leave the group altogether when the healer won't give in to them and they don't get their way. At that point it's clearly not just innocently "asking".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bovinity View Post
    It is when they'll go so far as leave the group altogether when the healer won't give in to them and they don't get their way. At that point it's clearly not just innocently "asking".
    Right he asked and the healer stomped his feet, so the tank stomped back. They're both guilty here. But he starts out by merely asking a question, which could have gotten an equally simple response.
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    Easy response "Sorry I don't have it slotted since at this level my dps can make much more of a difference than protect, however if you want to wait 1 minute for cooldowns I can cross class it then cross class it back, if not then just trust me, you will be fine."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorlioliolio View Post
    Easy response "Sorry I don't have it slotted since at this level my dps can make much more of a difference than protect, however if you want to wait 1 minute for cooldowns I can cross class it then cross class it back, if not then just trust me, you will be fine."
    Agreed, something as simple as this would alleviate anyone's concerns. If the tank wanted it, then right there you've just offered it to him and the healer can go back to slotting whatever else he wants after that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leiloni View Post
    Right he asked and the healer stomped his feet, so the tank stomped back. They're both guilty here. But he starts out by merely asking a question, which could have gotten an equally simple response.
    Saying that you don't have Protect slotted is not "stomping your feet".

    It seems like you're trying to create some equivalence here where none exists. Everyone could have just zoned in and ran the instance and things would have been fine. The tank could have simply said "Oh, ok" and ran the instance and things would have been fine. Instead, he chose to make an issue of it and quit. The healer in this equation is not at fault for anything whatsoever.
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