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    Player
    Kazumac's Avatar
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    Kha'tan Moapaln
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 67
    Yeah I don't run protect in my first 1-2 slots but if someone would ask for it, I'd switch and take it that they aren't confident in their gear and ability to press cooldowns appropriately. If they are in a state that is go go go they won't care and won't ask. Honestly it's quicker and less hassle to switch than make a stink about it. Not worth the time on the argument with a random in DF. But that's my opinion... I try to minimize conflict with randoms as much as possible. Not worth the headache even if it's less efficient.
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    Justin Tymes
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 52
    I don't see how Protect can be anywhere near as a 10% damage increase in low level content. Content where I, as an SCH, can tank the dungeon without protect. Healing is overpowered there, so additional 1-2% mitigation is trivial.
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    Yorumi Eienyuki
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    Ultros
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    Red Mage Lv 77
    We're really at the point where it's now bullying to ask someone to cast protect. Yeah I think this discussion has run it's course and then some.
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    Fynlar Eira
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    Hyperion
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    And this is literally only a problem in the first two dungeons when you have just one cross class slot (if you're leveled down in DF). By the time you hit Copperbell it's a non issue since you can equip both.
    Not for me, because my 2nd slot goes to Aero.

    Why do you feel so strongly about not doing the most you can as a healer? Why is dps so important but preventing damage via buffs is not? It's honestly rather strange.
    Because better DPS both prevents damage AND quickens the dungeon.
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    WingsOfAzrael's Avatar
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    Emarial Artayu
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    Hyperion
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post

    Because better DPS both prevents damage AND quickens the dungeon.
    Protect = 1 cast, 30 min, lessens damage from all hits you have to cast it once every 30 minutes unless someone dies or the party wipes for whatever reason, preventing damage via buffs is JUST as important as dpsing, if you don't use protect in later content, nobody willwant to raid or dungeon with you, i can guarantee that, its just plain stupid not to have protect up if you're a healer mid-end game, if you don't have protect up, people will ask for it just do both, use protect and dps.
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by WingsOfAzrael View Post
    if you don't use protect in later content, nobody willwant to raid or dungeon with you, i can guarantee that, its just plain stupid not to have protect up if you're a healer mid-end game
    Everyone is discussing Protect in the context of the lowest level dungeons. I don't think anyone advocates running around without Protect in higher level duties.
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    Gaston's Avatar
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    Leopard's Maelstrom
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    Malboro
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    Lancer Lv 56
    Yeah. Dpsing is always right way to go as "healer".

    Healer's priority duty is "dpsing".
    It's a unbeatable logic.

    Can't deal with it. Lol
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaston View Post
    Yeah. Dpsing is always right way to go as "healer".

    Healer's priority duty is "dpsing".
    It's a unbeatable logic.

    Can't deal with it. Lol
    Don't be silly by strawmanning a reasonable point. It's valid to suggest that healer DPS is a far greater contribution to group success in low-level dungeons than Protect's unnoticeable benefit at those levels.

    Naturally providing both gives you the whole package, but it's clear which makes the bigger difference.
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    Bovinity Divinity
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaston View Post
    Yeah. Dpsing is always right way to go as "healer".

    Healer's priority duty is "dpsing".
    It's a unbeatable logic.

    Can't deal with it. Lol
    Actually healer DPS is nothing to laugh at. At high levels, pretty much any raid group worth a damn will expect their healers to be doing DPS, and at lower levels with Cleric Stance you actually end up being the top DPS in the group pretty often.
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    Leopard's Maelstrom
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    Malboro
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    Lancer Lv 56
    SE should give protect with trait improvement to tanks.

    Cause healers have to dpsing during dungeon. Not a matter to care your partyis going well or not.
    Lol
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