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    Ricdeau's Avatar
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    Ricdeau Cyton
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elkya95 View Post
    Well, we clear Faust just fine. We run MNK/MNK/MCH/BLM/WAR/PLD/SCH/WHM as well.I usually have me and the other monk around 950-1100 depending on mechanics and all that, blm is right under us and mch right under him again.
    Ooh, the way it was initially worded I assumed you were talking about Faust since that's where most people were getting hung up around the percentages you gave. My apologies on that. Sadly I must admit we did have much time in there last night so I have no major advice on the Oppressor. Your DPS sounds about right from what I've seen though. However, those additional details you provided should give some others that got some decent time in there a little more insight as to your situation.

    The only screen I've seen with a parse at the end of a clear is this: http://i.imgur.com/ynysj56.png
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricdeau View Post
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    The only screen I've seen with a parse at the end of a clear is this: http://i.imgur.com/ynysj56.png
    we can still go higher, by the end of my clear i was at 955 dps, and that was while using LB and getting mini'ed for the last 10 seconds of the fight, and with an abysmal 18% crit rate.
    with better rng on crit and what not, i was normally above hovering around 1000-1050 on most enrages.

    other random bits of info i picked up from my A1 savage clear...

    the oppressors jump approx 5 seconds after the tank cleave following the missiles exploding, so you can time your tornado kick with this cleave in mind.
    when your dealing with the adds, you can do a 2 steps forward 1 step back to keep your gcd rolling at all times and still move the adds relatively quick.
    if you hit the add relatively hard for whatever reason, ie string of crits, etc, you can throw a couple gcd on the oppressor as you go past them to your marker.
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    Last edited by Zamii; 07-23-2015 at 03:46 PM.

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    Kenrir Amnis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricdeau View Post

    The only screen I've seen with a parse at the end of a clear is this: http://i.imgur.com/ynysj56.png
    I want that parser layout
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricdeau View Post
    Ooh, the way it was initially worded I assumed you were talking about Faust since that's where most people were getting hung up around the percentages you gave. My apologies on that. Sadly I must admit we did have much time in there last night so I have no major advice on the Oppressor. Your DPS sounds about right from what I've seen though. However, those additional details you provided should give some others that got some decent time in there a little more insight as to your situation.

    The only screen I've seen with a parse at the end of a clear is this: http://i.imgur.com/ynysj56.png
    Dat WHM name doe!

    Also. In order to fix monks all they need to do is make Med an off gcd and put an appropriate cd on forbidden chakra. Not only will that help to alleviate the gap in dps after you consider the raid dps the other two melee bring, it will allow us to incorporate pur into the fight multiple times when its actually needed without fucking us out of the globals used to stack for it because:
    A. if youre running dry it means theres almost no downtime to use med without losing dps to regain tp.
    B. if youre forcing med into your rotation instead of a dps gcd, youre saving some tp while doing it anyway making pur worth that much less.
    Also while form shift is nice to start a fight, and will help to keep stacks up sometimes. more often than not you land on a dk/bs or ts/ts when the mob flies, or the time its gone is longer than your gl stack allows anyway even if everything is perfect. they should make it sustain the current gl stack if used on demo/sp. which would prob be a little op but, you would still be penalized by having dk fall off the boss and having to reapply and ts fall off of you and having to reapply. while this would make form shift kind of broken, not being pretty far above other jobs in st while bringing 0 raid dps utility would be balanced. right now all raid dps utility is worth far more than usual because of how much healers and tanks are having to dps to down the current content with the available gear level, even if your dpsers are good they still need to put out quite a bit making those buffs worth that much more.
    The same thing should be done for mudra to fix the lag issue, being able to weave them into your rotation would fix the server lag randomness of mudra timings and having the actual skill bounce back all at once. but this wont be done cause whoever thought of the bunny will be butthurt.
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    Last edited by Clarpar; 07-29-2015 at 12:48 AM.

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    Changing gears a little bit, what is everyone's opinion in the Monk Esoterics Weapon vs the Hive weaponfor Savage Alex progression purposes.

    The hive has the perfect balance of stats, being high in crit and lower in det. The eso has zero det but 9 more strength (equal to about 36 det equivalent, right?) but is heavy in crit and with some SS.

    I hear everyone should get weapons first for savage progression, but with only 2 physical damage increase and 9 more strength, is it worth losing the perfect combo of secondary stats on the Hive weapon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckles View Post
    Changing gears a little bit, what is everyone's opinion in the Monk Esoterics Weapon vs the Hive weaponfor Savage Alex progression purposes.

    The hive has the perfect balance of stats, being high in crit and lower in det. The eso has zero det but 9 more strength (equal to about 36 det equivalent, right?) but is heavy in crit and with some SS.

    I hear everyone should get weapons first for savage progression, but with only 2 physical damage increase and 9 more strength, is it worth losing the perfect combo of secondary stats on the Hive weapon?
    2 weapon damage alone is worth a huge amount, but you couple that with 9 more STR and it's just flat out no contest. That difference is huge. Since we pretty fresh at 60 we haven't had time for secondaries to get to the point where we were at in 2.x. Eventually the value of secondaries will start climbing back up, but right now and always 2 WD is a big deal not even to mention the 9 STR.

    So long story short, weapon weapon weapon...always weapon first.
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    Last edited by Ricdeau; 07-29-2015 at 06:37 AM. Reason: typos

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    Atiqa Craiger
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckles View Post
    Changing gears a little bit, what is everyone's opinion in the Monk Esoterics Weapon vs the Hive weaponfor Savage Alex progression purposes.

    The hive has the perfect balance of stats, being high in crit and lower in det. The eso has zero det but 9 more strength (equal to about 36 det equivalent, right?) but is heavy in crit and with some SS.

    I hear everyone should get weapons first for savage progression, but with only 2 physical damage increase and 9 more strength, is it worth losing the perfect combo of secondary stats on the Hive weapon?
    Sadly, at the moment there isn't many higher ilvl gear pieces that is worse than lower ilvl pieces. Secondaries, as have been mentioned, gives a lot less now relative to 2.X.

    Unless something gives Accuracy, and you don't need that accuracy, the main stat will make the higher ilvl gear better anyways. Even with accuracy, they can give more weighted stats than lower ilvl gear that have 0 accuracy.

    Weapons don't have accuracy anymore, so it's impossible for a lower ilvl weapon to be even close to a higher ilvl one.

    DET has been nerfed a lot in the expansion, while Crit got buffed, so our best guess right now is just to see them as equal.

    Because Det isn't miles ahead of SS, the Esoteric weapon gives more Weighted STR than the Hive weapon, even if you don't include the weapon damage... With the weapon damage, it blows it out of the water by a long-shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckles View Post
    Changing gears a little bit, what is everyone's opinion in the Monk Esoterics Weapon vs the Hive weaponfor Savage Alex progression purposes.

    The hive has the perfect balance of stats, being high in crit and lower in det. The eso has zero det but 9 more strength (equal to about 36 det equivalent, right?) but is heavy in crit and with some SS.

    I hear everyone should get weapons first for savage progression, but with only 2 physical damage increase and 9 more strength, is it worth losing the perfect combo of secondary stats on the Hive weapon?
    DET got nerfed hard, 36 DET isn't even close to 9 STR. `


    i200 weap is much better. Upgraded is BiS, no reason not to get it now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricdeau View Post
    I think it was already asked, but what paser has this ui overlay?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daega View Post
    I think it was already asked, but what paser has this ui overlay?
    It's ACT, but they have a different mini parse overlay. You can see some different examples below:

    https://github.com/billyvg/OverlayPlugin-themes
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