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    Spartan117's Avatar
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    Chione Winterfury
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    Tonberry
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    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sigmakan View Post
    I dont even bother with Form Shift, I just do 5 chakra charges and there is enough time to maintain GL.
    I always reach that phase when in coeurl form (next hit demolish). there's enough time to do 5 meditation before the boss becomes targetable and hit demolish at 2-3s remaining on GL3 (thanks SE for GL duration buff).
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    SunnyHirose's Avatar
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    Sunny Hirose
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Your suspicion is correct: Meditation is a DPS gain to slip somewhere in the rotation if and only if you already had four Chakra stacks (as with any out-of-stance GCDs, this is under the assumption that you don't consequently do something bad to any of your buff/debuff timers). At two Meditations to one Forbidden Chakra, you lose enough GCD time to come out worse than your normal rotation.
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    Butcherboy's Avatar
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    Commodore Butcherboy
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    Cactuar
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    I've actually have done that stack 4 chakra and just pop FS ones so I can DK with debuff at start
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    Mike Fisticuffison
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    Famfrit
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    Monk Lv 80
    Which opener would you guys use if the boss(think the first and last boss of Neverfun) starts off with an invulnerable mechanic almost immediately? Ossum's opener will not be doable for bosses such as those. I just use the former opener (FS x3, demo(pb), snap(bfb), snap(ir), dk(sp), tw(ef), snap(hf), tod(fc) etc) and everything finishes on time.
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    Maximillion Xameht
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    Leviathan
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    I stopped using pb on the first boss of neverreap a long time ago, not because you cant complete the opener, but because of the random spawns of his shadow sometimes costing you gl3 anyway.
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    Sunny Hirose
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    Hyperion
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    Most monks used their normal opener for T6 savage back when (pull -> auto, cleave, Blighted Bouquet) and it didn't hurt 'em, really. The timing of it allowed you to continue. Titan, on the other hand... I'd more often than not hold PB until after Earthen Fury when everyone else is just pushing the phases so quickly.

    In dungeons, though, PB on a boss? Hmm, there's a good chance I already used it on the trash.
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    Enma Hellbringer
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    Sephirot
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    Alchemist Lv 70
    In the current dungeons if you are speed running, For nevereap, the 1st pull you can activate pb and it will be up by the time you get to the 1st boss. For fractal however, it won't be.

    As for bosses, nevereap 1st boss I don't use pb until after the 1st shadow is killed since the boss stays out longer. For fractal 2nd boss, I would do the same and not use pb since he will use swing and knock you back. You can probably argue to take the hit and save ST for it then you can continue your combo.

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    @Ossom
    I thought I added that bit in the guide but it seems I missed it, is there a good timing for when you know the boss will change from human->hand form? Like in normal, he will use his unavoidable aoes (where he punches the floor) the 2nd time before changing forms.
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    Ossom Possom
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    Adamantoise
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    Armorer Lv 53
    Quote Originally Posted by monchkinz View Post
    In the current dungeons if you are speed running, For nevereap, the 1st pull you can activate pb and it will be up by the time you get to the 1st boss. For fractal however, it won't be.

    As for bosses, nevereap 1st boss I don't use pb until after the 1st shadow is killed since the boss stays out longer. For fractal 2nd boss, I would do the same and not use pb since he will use swing and knock you back. You can probably argue to take the hit and save ST for it then you can continue your combo.

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    @Ossom
    I thought I added that bit in the guide but it seems I missed it, is there a good timing for when you know the boss will change from human->hand form? Like in normal, he will use his unavoidable aoes (where he punches the floor) the 2nd time before changing forms.
    After the AoEs, he does a Frontal Swipe, after that he goes into Hand Phase. in AS3 I think its the second set of AoE Slams then Frontal then swap. But not 100% sure.
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    Kori Fleming
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    Cerberus
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Cleave -> Protean Wave -> Cleave -> Stomp x 3 -> Cleave -> Sluice -> Stomp x 3 -> Cleave -> Transition
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    Enma Hellbringer
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    Sephirot
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    Alchemist Lv 70
    Kk thanks guys. Ill add it to the guide. I am only currently on a2s due to some static problems but hopefully can get there soon.
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