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    FFXIV Housing is a true innovation in the MMORPG genre where players are classified into ranks based on whether they have enough virtual currency quickly enough. It allows the game company to implement otherwise impractical systems for an absolute minority of the player population, even though all those players may be paying the same subscription fee. It effectively forms a subsidization system where the majority of the customers is paying for enjoyment of the minority, a truly novel and unprecedented system in the MMORPG industry.

    FFXIV Housing undoubtedly sets a new mark and we cannot wait to see what the next new innovations they bring to this age-old genre of gaming.

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    Any new wards will be the same. The core philosophy of the limited-supply model needs to change if housing is to be available to all players. This is one area where I will outright give FFXIV a big red FAIL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    even though all those players may be paying the same subscription fee.
    but wouldnt those who do more or extra with this same fee, such as earning the gil to afford a house be entitled to the extras? or should those who log in just to afk all day be granted the same extras for absolutely 0 work? housing atm, though limited is not impossible. atm you just have to work a little harder for it. now Aion did have free (no in game currency cost) instanced housing which i believe would be more ideal. but to create more wards and more houses to fulfill the current demand.... sorry id rather the memory and space be used for more content
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    Every time I see future housing threads, I have to actively roll my eyes. It takes less effort to search the board for pre-existing threads than it does to actually make a new one and type out the questions that have already been answered literally hundreds of times before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophie-Mio View Post
    Every time I see future housing threads, I have to actively roll my eyes. It takes less effort to search the board for pre-existing threads than it does to actually make a new one and type out the questions that have already been answered literally hundreds of times before.
    but the internet and its forums cant decide their rules. use the search function. dont necro old threads. which is it? someone used the forum, asked a question, got a response. it's fine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    but the internet and its forums cant decide their rules. use the search function. dont necro old threads. which is it? someone used the forum, asked a question, got a response. it's fine
    Necroing old threads? Some of them are less than two weeks old. Though I guess in some circles that's SO old. He wouldn't have even needed to necro any thread regardless since all of his questions had been answered before. Many times. In many different housing threads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophie-Mio View Post
    Necroing old threads? Some of them are less than two weeks old. Though I guess in some circles that's SO old. He wouldn't have even needed to necro any thread regardless since all of his questions had been answered before. Many times. In many different housing threads.
    but ur original comment has been posted countless times before in many different ways. so if we went back far enough the only proper threads according to some of the more opinionated persons would be the originals of a topic. which by that standard would require necroing. someone used the forums seeking information and a response from the community. nothing to necessitate rolling your eyes at
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophie-Mio View Post
    Every time I see future housing threads, I have to actively roll my eyes. It takes less effort to search the board for pre-existing threads than it does to actually make a new one and type out the questions that have already been answered literally hundreds of times before.
    Oh no! People are anxious about a part of the game that they have no way to access and the developers are oddly quiet about the glaring issues! Whatever will busy forum posters do!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verdan View Post
    Oh no! People are anxious about a part of the game that they have no way to access and the developers are oddly quiet about the glaring issues! Whatever will busy forum posters do!
    The reason I posted a new thread, in all honesty, was because it's difficult to rekindle a discussion in an aged thread. People should not stop talking about this issue, as it's not something silly like a cosmetic glitch, but an actual core feature of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    but wouldnt those who do more or extra with this same fee, such as earning the gil to afford a house be entitled to the extras?
    The fee gives you access to "all game contents". Investing more time doesn't give you more entitlement. It physically unlocks more for you, but it doesn't mean you are entitled to more; or conversely, it doesn't mean someone who pays $12.99 a month to go afk isn't entitled to have access to the content eventually. This is an important point. We all pay the same fees, we are all entitled to the same access. What we do in-game will decide what we actually do access, but not what we are entitled to access.

    I may not be doing Savage, but I still have the same access entitlement as anybody else. What I do towards gearing up and practicing rotations, etc., will decide whether I do actually access Savage, not whether I am entitle to the access.

    There simply isn't enough plots for everyone. And as most servers probably have all their S plots bought up, it means the rest of the population are forced to spend extra to buy something they don't want.

    On top of that, earning gil has never been the core selling point of this game. Combat is. Yet the housing system is based entirely on your ability to earn more and earn quicker than others.

    My jab at the current housing system is aimed at the developer's stubbornness in refusing to provide instanced housing which would have the easiest management requirement (no setting up wards), and eliminates competition between players (number of L:M:S plots can be dynamically allocated). The wards system was designed from the ground up to be a limited-supply system. And even if eventually enough wards are added so everyone can buy a plot, most people will have been forced to buy a bigger plot than they enjoy, spending 2 to 5 times the amount of gil they wanted to.

    It's as if the server only allows 500 characters to reach Lv 60 for each job. Anyone late to the party? Sorry, you stay at level 50 until we upgrade the servers to allow the next 100 characters to hit Lv 60. Or it's as if the server only allow the first 500 parties to ever enter Savage to keep accessing Savage. You didn't make it? Well maybe in the next patch we'll open up another 100 parties.

    It's all about access.
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