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  1. #1051
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    Jonnycbad's Avatar
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 100
    DS sucks in these new expert dungeons as of right now. Mostly because we arent as overgeared for it as we were for expert in 2.x yet. I can spam DS for 1000 TP and invigorate and still only have taken out about 30-40% of the hoard's HP pool, then I'm effectively neutered for quite a while. I'd rather'd IDC/TTT with georskoguls thrown in the mix, otherwise you'll have nothing for the next round of adds. I'm hopeful they will scale Doom Spike's damage at some point or reduce it's TP cost, but if nerfing Holy/Flare is any indication, likely not.
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  2. #1052
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    HeavensSword's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Marik Landzaat
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    WOW! This gear creep is unbelievable. At full i120 "bis" we'll be averaging 20% CRT and a crit multiplier of 1.558. That's basically 2.2 levels of crit.

    We gained 300 crit approximately from a 30 ilvl jump (i180-i210).

    So if there's a similar trend of 300+ per 30 ilvls, I'll guesstimate +600 at the end of the expansion (3.4)...

    34% Crit Chance with a multiplier of 1.6987... That's scary if they follow this 300 Crit jump per patch...
    I'm hoping they don't go too crazy for the sake of longevity. Wouldn't want to have to do a stat squish like WoW needed in their recent expansion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    DS sucks in these new expert dungeons as of right now. Mostly because we arent as overgeared for it as we were for expert in 2.x yet. I can spam DS for 1000 TP and invigorate and still only have taken out about 30-40% of the hoard's HP pool, then I'm effectively neutered for quite a while. I'd rather'd IDC/TTT with georskoguls thrown in the mix, otherwise you'll have nothing for the next round of adds. I'm hopeful they will scale Doom Spike's damage at some point or reduce it's TP cost, but if nerfing Holy/Flare is any indication, likely not.
    I've mainly had issues when the other DPS's AoE isn't up to snuff, otherwise after i've used my invigorate, I stop my AoE when i get to about 400 tp and then resume ST on the mobs remaining.

    I'm still annoyed by the BRDs and MCHs that don't know how (or refuse) to use their TP regen though; at least after an AoE intensive group between pulls would be nice.
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    Last edited by HeavensSword; 07-24-2015 at 03:29 AM.

  3. #1053
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    ShiroSteve's Avatar
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    Shiro Steve
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 60
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    Last edited by ShiroSteve; 07-24-2015 at 09:09 AM.

  4. #1054
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    pandabearcat's Avatar
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    Alizebeth Bequin
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ShiroSteve View Post
    Dervy mind if I ask what your Ilvl and buff status was on the parses on page 103? Food, party, pot etc. Just trying to sort out where I'm sitting in comparison.
    put your stats into the sim, it will give you a very accurate dummy dps to aim for.

    edit: turn off pots if you don't want to use pots, etc.
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  5. #1055
    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Lilila Lila
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    Hey everyone! I just wanted to pop by and show gratitude for this thread, and it's predecessor, for inspiring me to stay as a dragoon main.

    Any major tips for controller users? There are so many skills controller makes it hard to keep track of. What I have taken to doing is abusing cross hotbars for double weaving:
    L2+left=he
    L2+R2+left=bfb
    R2+left=bl

    Rinse and repeat for the other directions. Also potions on my server are expensive af. ; w; any alternative or am I sol? Lol
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  6. #1056
    Player BristolRuss's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    J'azih Dahj
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    What is everybody's best parse so far on Faust? I just did 1448 which I was pretty happy with.
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  7. #1057
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    Sennema's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Sydney Lahkol
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    Any major tips for controller users? There are so many skills controller makes it hard to keep track of. What I have taken to doing is abusing cross hotbars for double weaving:
    snipperoo
    Also potions on my server are expensive af. ; w; any alternative or am I sol? Lol
    Abusing crossbars is where it's at. I have my GCDs all on hotbar one, with my 4ths on the R2+L2/L2+R2 bar for ease of access, and my cooldowns on hotbar 2. Then disabled the shared hotbars when weapon is drawn, and added my oGCDs to hotbar 7&8 (which you can't access on controller really, but you can view your cooldowns to see if you need to switch bars to activate any).

    As for potions, I play on Jenova, so they're hella expensive. Same with food. I craft/gather to mitigate the cost, though, and I don't use potions in regular dungeons. They're for boss fights only.
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  8. #1058
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    Lv99Caterpie's Avatar
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    Limsa Brominsa
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    Character
    Vesper Aquilus
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    Is it viable to hit 2 ogcds when you get mad latency? I find myself feeling less effective trying for 2 ogcd weave when button pushes don't register correctly. I'm from New Zealand and play on PS4. I don't main Dragoon, but it's my go-to DPS class so I like to not be a burden in 4man content and do mad deeps.

    Also another question about disposing of trash pulls. Is DS even worth using anymore? What is best for large groups? I usually run with my partner and she mains a SMN. I always feel like she murders everything and I'm there purely to put the boss on a pike.
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  9. #1059
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    Reiden219's Avatar
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    Character
    Jedash Rahl
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    What exactly is a 4th tier ability?
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  10. #1060
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    Greyfrost's Avatar
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    Ichi Greyfrost
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Reiden219 View Post
    What exactly is a 4th tier ability?
    I believe the 4th tier ability mentioned is the ability gained from level 50-60.

    But strictly speaking, it's either fang and claw / Wheeling thrust. and since we won't know what we get until we finish a combo, hence the vague name.
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