How to Dragoon Per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[Reiden219]

I believe the 4th tier ability mentioned is the ability gained from level 50-60.

But strictly speaking, it's either fang and claw / Wheeling thrust. and since we won't know what we get until we finish a combo, hence the vague name.

Ah, gotcha. Thank you for the explanation!

[kyrios91]

DS sucks in these new expert dungeons as of right now. Mostly because we arent as overgeared for it as we were for expert in 2.x yet. I can spam DS for 1000 TP and invigorate and still only have taken out about 30-40% of the hoard's HP pool, then I'm effectively neutered for quite a while. I'd rather'd IDC/TTT with georskoguls thrown in the mix, otherwise you'll have nothing for the next round of adds. I'm hopeful they will scale Doom Spike's damage at some point or reduce it's TP cost, but if nerfing Holy/Flare is any indication, likely not.

IMHO DS / RoT is just bad if the adds are quite tanky. I pump more DPS with just doing a normal rotation on a target and popping GK as the AoE bit rather than spamming DS which gave low DPS/TP returns. The only moment I use HT > RoT > DS spam is at the Violet section of Fractal where the mobs there are very squishy.

[Solidito]

What sort of dps were people getting around 180ilvl? (Law gear/upgraded only)

On a dummy, in a1, a2, a3 and a4 etc (if anyone had this that is).

I was practicing on a dummy last night and only maintained around 1050-1090 dps which i believe might be a little too low (not sure how much of a different Ravana weapon/Alexander gear makes).

[Aiurily]

at i180 with hive weapon, 1200 +- 20 with xpot food and party buff

without ravana wep, -30-40 is probably fair

[Sessurea]

What is everybody's best parse so far on Faust? I just did 1448 which I was pretty happy with.

What about your damage on faust alone? Dragonfire dive and geiriskol (how2spell) add trucks of aoe damage that clips the adds.

[alpha2415]

How can the stat weigh be lower now then before? That would make perfect penta melds less relevant now if those numbers are correct.

[Mibhas]

How can the stat weigh be lower now then before? That would make perfect penta melds less relevant now if those numbers are correct.

You have a higher meld budget now, so it makes up for their weights being lower.

[Kunkka]

This skillspeed number in the main post is wrong. I can get full potency off heavy thrust at 555 skillspeed.

[Aquaslash]

Abusing crossbars is where it's at. I have my GCDs all on hotbar one, with my 4ths on the R2+L2/L2+R2 bar for ease of access, and my cooldowns on hotbar 2. Then disabled the shared hotbars when weapon is drawn, and added my oGCDs to hotbar 7&8 (which you can't access on controller really, but you can view your cooldowns to see if you need to switch bars to activate any).

As for potions, I play on Jenova, so they're hella expensive. Same with food. I craft/gather to mitigate the cost, though, and I don't use potions in regular dungeons. They're for boss fights only.

Will I be losing much DPS if I ignore potions altogether? They're really expensive on cactuar, and I don't have much gil as it is

[Mcfromnc]

So I was parsing last night and I ran a test. The new Dragoon combo vs the old where phleb comes before the full thrust combo and you do the full thrust combo twice. So when I ran this test I assumed you guys were right and I'd see more damage from the new rotation. The weird thing is I did the new rotation perfectly and the old rotation I actually messed up slightly. But the old rotation (ht-p-id-db-ct-4th-tt-vt-ft-4th-x2) actually out damaged the new (ht-id-db-ct-4th-p-tt-vt-ft-4th repeat) by about 20-30 dps.

When I did the old rotation the dots would fall off for 1-2 seconds and so I was assuming at the end of the test I'd see that you guys were right and I'd have a nice dps boost. But the opposite happened. Anyone have any input on this? The parses were 1080 for the new and 1100 for the old. They were however 2 minute parses bc my buddy was short on time. But I don't really see why that would make much of a difference.