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    Quote Originally Posted by Galdous View Post
    I think I am only seeing the same few people agree. Alot of people also feel that Astrologian job is in a very good place and will perform as well as the other healers in Savage which they seem to be doing well in.
    No, just no ... AST is not in a very good place, it struggles to do what the 2 others can do much more easily. So please stop spreading misinformation.

    Like its been said a million times already, we know that its not impossible to clear A1S but it shouldn't be that much more demanding than on other healers jobs.

    Its not because some people can clear it that suddenly we should turn a blind eye on all the flaws of the job.
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    Trying to mispread information yourself? Thematically it is impossible for Astrologian to be so far behind white mage and scholar that they struggle since astro is only 20 potency behind white mage. That negates to barely 100 hps lost along with the strongest (on 40 second cooldown) instant cast heal int he game with upwards of 1k potency if you learn to time it properly along with light speed which i clocked an astro burst healing for about 2k single target I am not not sure you are just trying to make a mountain out of a ant hill.

    Astro is not as simple as scholar or white mage. It takes thought and coordination to maximize your card use but to claim they are not in a good situation is worse then spreading misinformation. It is borderline lying. If astro could not handle Savage then we would have issues but we so far have too little data to back your claim but actual proof that astro's are healing savage mode. Wait and see instead of yelling the sky is falling please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galdous View Post
    Trying to mispread information yourself? Thematically it is impossible for Astrologian to be so far behind white mage and scholar that they struggle since astro is only 20 potency behind white mage.
    It's getting really tiring hearing this. Potency of heals is not the issue; it's the distinct lack of healing cool downs and ways to increase throughput when needed that AST lacks compared to SCH/WHM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galdous View Post
    Trying to mispread information yourself? Thematically it is impossible for Astrologian to be so far behind white mage and scholar that they struggle since astro is only 20 potency behind white mage. That negates to barely 100 hps lost along with the strongest (on 40 second cooldown) instant cast heal int he game with upwards of 1k potency if you learn to time it properly along with light speed which i clocked an astro burst healing for about 2k single target I am not not sure you are just trying to make a mountain out of a ant hill.

    Astro is not as simple as scholar or white mage. It takes thought and coordination to maximize your card use but to claim they are not in a good situation is worse then spreading misinformation. It is borderline lying. If astro could not handle Savage then we would have issues but we so far have too little data to back your claim but actual proof that astro's are healing savage mode. Wait and see instead of yelling the sky is falling please.
    Astrologian base heals are the most mana efficient heals in the game in terms of potency per mana. Their potencies are fine; however, what everyone is talking about is BOOSTING those potencies through the use of cooldowns. At this current moment, Astrologians do not have many tools to mitigate enough damage OR boost healing potency like Fey Illumination, Rouse or Divine Seal can in situations where you stem away from sustained healing into burst-like healing.

    Since Astrologians suffer from GCD syndrome like White Mages did in 2.0, just imagine White Mage without Cure III, Presence of Mind, Divine Seal, Assize, Benediction and Asylum (I left tetragrammaton because despite Essential Dignity being awesome, it does not top to 100%) with 4 additional swiftcasts instead. You're stuck relying on the other healer to heal during GCDs or your regens--which by the way, is the worst thing to rely on when you need someone at a certain HP pool before the global HoT tick happens.

    EDIT 2: I forgot about Cure III.
    EDIT 3: In case there are some players who do not understand raid healing, healers have 5 things working against them:

    - GCD (Time until next heal)
    - Time (Incoming Damage)
    - Resources (MP, Cooldowns)
    - Human Error (Avoidable damage taken, mechanics not being done, cooldowns not being used properly, etc.)
    - Group Class Proficiency (Entire raid group is working around 90% or 100% to the maximum class potencial--numbers pulled out of thin air, but it should be easy to understand that if you have a raid group who is pushing their respective classes close to their limits in the bare minimum iLvL, things should be relatively easier. The only thing that cancels out proficiency is stat walls such as Savage A3 at the moment).
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    Last edited by Parawill; 07-24-2015 at 09:34 AM. Reason: Forgot about 50+ WHM spells

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    I am sure the Devs will only listen to the feedback from lvl 60 ASTs that are doing Savage and not a level zero AST with no experience with the job whatsoever, whose intentions are being too obvious now. I am not going to be rude, but I do ask to please stop spreading misinformation if you don't have experience with the job and less with it in Savage.

    Quote Originally Posted by kiraan View Post
    No, just no ... AST is not in a very good place, it struggles to do what the 2 others can do much more easily. So please stop spreading misinformation.

    Like its been said a million times already, we know that its not impossible to clear A1S but it shouldn't be that much more demanding than on other healers jobs.

    Its not because some people can clear it that suddenly we should turn a blind eye on all the flaws of the job.
    Kiraan, he is just trolling, don't even bother. lol
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    Last edited by Tyla_Esmeraude; 07-24-2015 at 09:24 AM.