This patch dropped the ball hard

[ckc22]

That would allow people to gear too quickly and max out every job in 3 months with time put in. which means your not subbing 6 months of the year......Not smart business.

Personally I think you overestimate the number of people who just unsub at the drop of the hat, but that's neither here nor there.

Giving a per job cap does nothing to reduce the amount of time it takes to gear.... In 3 months 3.1 will be out and there will be a new wheel to run on. And again, for someone to get every job to geared in 3 months they'd already have to have every job at 60 which means they spend a lot of time in the game - a person who would have every dom/dow at 60 and fully geared in eso in 3 months is not the kind of person who is going to unsub from the game.

[Mhikail]

You know, SE could have named these gear different and you wouldn't be complaining. Actually, we, the players, are the ones who are labeling these gear as "AF2". You're giving more importance to these gear for arbitrary reasons, when these gear isn't different than the Evenstar gear when the Soldiery Tomes came up, or the Ironworks gear when the poetics tomes came up.

Yes, it will take months to get the sets you (and me) want, but that happened before.

Except it's a job set and pretty much is "AF2" You literally have to go 1 by 1, it's not ROLE set's.

[ZemusM]

HW hasn't even been out a month yet and I am pretty f'n bored and am leveling alts and jobs.

Thats your choice. You have ESO to grind, Alex Normal and Alex Savage, Bismark & Ravana Extreme. All of those alone for even a casual player takes a week to cap. I play 1 class and am having no issues of boredom because there are things to work on. Im sorry you feel different

[ZemusM]

Personally I think you overestimate the number of people who just unsub at the drop of the hat, but that's neither here nor there.

Giving a per job cap does nothing to reduce the amount of time it takes to gear.... In 3 months 3.1 will be out and there will be a new wheel to run on. And again, for someone to get every job to geared in 3 months they'd already have to have every job at 60 which means they spend a lot of time in the game - a person who would have every dom/dow at 60 and fully geared in eso in 3 months is not the kind of person who is going to unsub from the game.

I agree and disagree. Were not 100% off of eachother. I just think 600 per week is a better Business Decision than a job cap

[Fendred]

Thats your choice. You have ESO to grind, Alex Normal and Alex Savage, Bismark & Ravana Extreme. All of those alone for even a casual player takes a week to cap. I play 1 class and am having no issues of boredom because there are things to work on. Im sorry you feel different

It matters little what any individual player finds fun. If an option exists, players will make use of those options. Especially when players are encouraged to take those options from the start of the game. The base upon which the game is built is inspired by earlier Final Fantasy titles, but the top of the game is conceptually a variation of World of Warcraft. Both want to accomplish different things by the time the game comes to an end. Frankly, if Yoshida had the game he really wanted to produce it would have flopped because it would have torn every recognizable Final Fantasy mechanic from the game as it became a variation of World of Warcraft.

[Colt47]

And? THEY DESERVE THAT! Get a static and be on that tier. its NOT hard. there are literally HUNDREDS of Free Companies and Linkshells Dedicated to this stuff.

Also. You gearing ESO allows you to do Savage easy which IS the highest tier. Sure when 3.2 drops and the next tier arrives they will hop right in with little issue and you require a little bit of work to continue, But thats the nature of the game, They put in the extra effort and they are rewarded. People who don't shouldn't its that simple.

Why do they deserve to get to see content sooner than someone else? Also, if they already have a mindset to do content in a set group, wouldn't they already be capable of doing the content faster than everyone else? If so, why do they also need the higher iLvL gear than say, someone who only does normal mode? Wouldn't the higher iLvL gear just obfuscate their skill level and make them only seem like they are more skilled? Don't take this like I mean there should be no high teir rewards for the dedicated raiding type, it's just that the reward shouldn't involve full sets of increased iLvL armor, but glamours and probably a legendary item that does have a higher iLvL and unique model.

At the end of the day, being a dedicated raider doesn't make someone more of a fan Final Fantasy or FFXIV for that matter than a guy just doing crafts and story and this system punishes those who want a relaxing time and encourages hardcore grinding.

[Kiyashi]

Nuff said

[Fendred]

Nuff said

Who are you responding to exactly? The last few posts have nothing to do with player skill level and deal with a design conflict. Or is this just your knee jerk reaction to everything you refuse to read?

[ZemusM]

for that matter than a guy just doing crafts and story and this system punishes those who want a relaxing time and encourages hardcore grinding.

No, it doesn't make them any better than you or a bigger fan. Just organized, and they are rewarded for it.

Get over it. Get a static. Im sorry but you don't deserve that gear. And I'm sorry but if you want to be anti-social and avoid having to play with others WHY are you playing an MMO? It sounds to me like you want Final Fantasy XIV to be Guild Wars 2 which would be the biggest disaster ever because GW2 is the most boring PvE High Level MMO ever made

Gear of a higher tier needs to be in raids. and in XIV raids are EXTREMELY accessable for small numbers. Join a Free Company or a Linkshell of like minded players who want to do that content. How many times do I have to say this?

Im Casual and I raid....it's not even a timesink in XIV to raid, and thats why your complaining doesn't even make any sense. One Alex run takes less than 15min which ironically is faster than a dungeon run!

[Raiya]

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Im not missing the point. Your complaining that earning tomestones should be faster. Im telling you it CANT BE or people will gear and unsub and the game will fail. We ASKED for class unique gear and we got it. We made this and now were complaining. No matter what SE does they can't win.

If you dont like it UNSUB to prove your point. But you wont

Your forgetting something. People will also unsub if the content takes too long as well.

The real issue tbh is the fact that they put the Job Specific armor (That alot of people wanted) behind a cap and too high a cost thats far too high expecially when previously we had role specific gear at the same cost but far more efficient because you could use that gear on 2 or 3 jobs in most cases at once.

I've no problem if the gear is achievable but the endless grind is kinda tiring at this point. We want something different. We did this through 2.0 and at this point its a little tiring. It should be possible to get the full core 200 set in 3~4 weeks (ie the full left side including weapon) and then upgrading these pieces through raids or other content.

Hell they shouldnt bothered with the doman gear as law that shouldve been set as buyable entry gear at i160~170 with gil or poetics and they should have just added the eso gear in as law at 180 and added the upgrade items to 200 to both alexander normal (on a 1 item a week basis) as well as purchasable with esoterics and made these further upgradable through another upgrade item from alexander savage. That wouldve been more fun and satisfying as it would feel instead of being forced to grind for gear you could get the gear you want and work on upgrading it.

What we have is gear thats too throwaway or takes so long to get by the time you have it you gotta chuck it for the next gear or store it for glamor as soon as u got the set. Not only that but it takes far too long to get the full set for just one job.

What people wanted was to get the core gear that you can get reasonably quick then augment it and upgrade it.