Astro in savage

[SuzakuCMX]

The Answer is simple don't go in under geared I mean doing it now or later doesn't make much difference it's not like there is any reward for clearing it before anyone else so get the new E tome Ilevel 200 weapon and you will be better off.

If AST can't clear Alexander Savage in the same gear WHM/SCH can, then there is a clear problem with class balance.

[RichardButte]

If AST can't clear Alexander Savage in the same gear WHM/SCH can, then there is a clear problem with class balance.

Stole the words...

I don't want to see AST relegated to a "farming runs only" healer.

[Assirra]

If AST can't clear Alexander Savage in the same gear WHM/SCH can, then there is a clear problem with class balance.

But who saids they can't?
The job aint a complete month old and people are already spelling doom and gloom.
I personally think it's still to early to be so negative as this whole section is now.
Don't forget whm/sch combo had over a year to evolve/get the best out of it.

[SuzakuCMX]

*snip*

Psst, you should read quoted text.

[Alahra]

But who saids they can't?
The job aint a complete month old and people are already spelling doom and gloom.
I personally think it's still to early to be so negative as this whole section is now.
Don't forget whm/sch combo had over a year to evolve/get the best out of it.

If AST were fundamentally different than the other two healers, I would agree with you, but it's not in any significant way. Its basic tool kit is the same basic tool kit that WHM and SCH have, so healing proficiency from one or the other carries over decently well. It shouldn't take all that long for people to be able to gauge its capabilities. I'm sure no one's playing AST perfectly yet, but perfect execution shouldn't be necessary to comment on the job. WHM and SCH as it is allow for more mistakes it seems, and mistakes are bound to happen in progression. So for that at least, they're probably preferred.

[EchuKayu]

How old does something have to be before people decide on if the class it lacking when it clearly is? There have been extremes, there was normal, and now there is savage, which currently AST aren't in it simply because of how incredibly hard it is in the current gear even for sch/whm. But, hey, maybe in 3 months when we decide how good the class is, and we have full eso gear and can finally do it, we can decide the class just needs a full BiS gearset to do it and the other healers don't

AST is basically a SCH/WHM in those stances, except weaker and without less ohshit and utility that benefits a HEALER not a support. And the weakness is offset by the cards, which are RNG and may not make up for the tools the other healers bring.

This is ignoring plenty of other problems the class has, I think we're beyond having to wait to decide how things shape up

[Kaizersan]

If AST can't clear Alexander Savage in the same gear WHM/SCH can, then there is a clear problem with class balance.

The problem is you don't know what gear level these guys are at they could have better on one job and slightly lower on another and E tome gear is a bit more optimized for AST rather then having to use gear that is made to be decent for 3 different healer types.

[FoxyAreku]

The problem is you don't know what gear level these guys are at they could have better on one job and slightly lower on another and E tome gear is a bit more optimized for AST rather then having to use gear that is made to be decent for 3 different healer types.

A decent argument, but secondary stats in this game don't make or break a class.
For example, a scholar with no crit. Yeah, it'd be miserable, but you'd still be able to make it work and do perfectly fine.

Not to mention the esoteric gear isn't even optimal for their classes as far as secondaries go. >_> Scholar is like full DET and white mage is full CRIT, yeah no I'm not buying that that is the optimal stat weight.

[Kaizersan]

A decent argument, but secondary stats in this game don't make or break a class.
For example, a scholar with no crit. Yeah, it'd be miserable, but you'd still be able to make it work and do perfectly fine.

Not to mention the esoteric gear isn't even optimal for their classes as far as secondaries go. >_> Scholar is like full DET and white mage is full CRIT, yeah no I'm not buying that that is the optimal stat weight.

Check out the ones for AST all but 2 are the best for AST and the Savage weapon is better then the E tomes one but the Ilevel alone would up your healing.

[Kaizersan]

A decent argument, but secondary stats in this game don't make or break a class.
For example, a scholar with no crit. Yeah, it'd be miserable, but you'd still be able to make it work and do perfectly fine.

Not to mention the esoteric gear isn't even optimal for their classes as far as secondaries go. >_> Scholar is like full DET and white mage is full CRIT, yeah no I'm not buying that that is the optimal stat weight.

The reason those others seem all over is because they want you to mix and match E Tome and Savage gear to have optimal secondary stats.