Astro in savage

[Hysterior]

with whm cohealer. Figured as much that would be they way to get through it. Maybe i'll see if my heal partner would be ok with this tonight

Of course some people will clear as AST but right now it's putting an handicap on your team

[Codek]

Of course some people will clear as AST but right now it's putting an handicap on your team

It's also really sad that when an AST does get the opportunity to replace a SCH, it's still basically required to stay under Diurnal and act as a second WHM. It's almost like using WHM/WHM* (*took an arrow to the knee) as the composition.

[Aurorarose51]

At this point we are on the top end of clears and I agree AST probably needs more changes to be truly competitive VS the other healers. However as of right now no reports of AST/SCH clears. That is what I want a list of clears or near clears with this was our problems and this is what worked. Since in a well balanced game all three combos should be able to clear all floors of AS. I started the forum since AST seems to be the only class excluded completely form many statics AS runs. Getting a poll of success can help figure out what exactly makes AST so much less viable (or maybe the nay sayers are just too loud right now).

FC mate AST that got to 2% last night healed with sch. So it is doable but... i think it takes a bit of coordination and a lot of skill.. their sch is... crazy good. and the AST is good too. So really, it's possible, but only if you have the skill and coordination.

[Parawill]

FC mate AST that got to 2% last night healed with sch. So it is doable but... i think it takes a bit of coordination and a lot of skill.. their sch is... crazy good. and the AST is good too. So really, it's possible, but only if you have the skill and coordination.

Oh that just got me to the edge of my chair. I'm going in again as AST and I'm going to push myself SO damn hard.

[Staris]

Oh that just got me to the edge of my chair. I'm going in again as AST and I'm going to push myself SO damn hard.

I was the AST

it would have been a kill if the monk didn't get killed by the giant avoidable laser halfway through also.
It really isn't that hard to heal it with ast/sch. It has advantages also like synastry lines up perfectly with double prey/tank buster.

Also our sch has cleric stance up more aggressively than he needs to, with even a few more gear upgrades to the group it would be jokes to make the dps check and he wouldn't need to do any damage and the healing would be trivial.

[Dervy]

Did opt for Durinal or Nocturnal Sect with that AST/SCH setup?

[Parawill]

I was the AST

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Hi Staris! Thank you for dropping in and providing some insight. Would you mind answering some questions?

1. Does your Scholar change his playstyle from instead just DPS'ing and single-target healing and shielding, apply Succor and AoE heal when required? In addition, does s/he use Eos/Selene and rotate cooldowns to help you AoE heal?

2. For double preys & tank busters, do your tanks use two CDs as opposed to one? In addition, does your SCH apply Adlo on at least 2 or 3 targets?

3. If possible, could you provide raid DPS information as well? I don't care so much about individual numbers, but overall group DPS & tank/healer DPS would be nice.

Thank ^_^ I'm super excited to go in again for another attempt! And kudos and all the praise for clearing (or getting close to) A:S1!

P.S: (I do see lost of room for recovery. I know one main issue even on WHM is my entire raid isn't getting hit by AoE heals x.x)

[zuzu-bq]

I was playing AST before savage launch. He was really fun and ok to good on any content before savage. But his strength falls a lot when we were doing harder content. I was the SCH and I had my partner playing WHM. Our first atempt at Alex Savage went well, we got Faust quickly and we were adjusting to Oppressor. We had to leave duty because of some member rl thing.

After that, we rejoined. Our WHM went as AST. No changes on Faust honestly but when we got to oppressor we were having trouble to adjust heals in some parts that we already had adjusted on SCH+WHM duo, and since AST's healing kit is so simmilar to WHM, maybe this reveals that AST is really lacking on something. Total party damage per second didn't change much, but I can't say if that was AST or our DPSs are still adjusting themselves to the fight. I know I'm still adjusting my stance dance and mana management.

I think AST's main problem are Aspected Helios wich Burst is a lot lower than WHM's Medica II and the lack of the Mind Attribute Bonus. I wanna try the WHM+AST duo later (with both Di and Noct). I never liked Aspected Helios since I started leveling AST, and I don't think Nocturnal Stance is bad like most people think. I wanna give it a shot later. Back on 2.x SCH was the support healer, while he still is a semi-supportive healer we got a lot of new heals out of our scholar hats but maybe SCH+AST is not as good because both are supportive kinda of healers? I don't know, I hope not beacuse I love the idea off keeping the party buffed for almost 100% of the time. We may end going up for SCH+WHM duo for progression anyways. I noticed Virus cd doesn't sync well with some AoE magical raid damage, I hope this doesn't become an issue without Disable or other Super Virus user (Summoner).

tl;dr
I think AST can do it. But he'll maybe need a bit more effort and/or gear than the others. To be honest, most and maybe all healer formations may be viable as people get more geared. Who knows!

[justinjarjar]

I was the AST

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Thanks for the info just want the forums to show that AST are not that bad. It also shows that all three options of healer comps. are doable for at least A1S. Was exactly what I was looking for gratz .

[Kaizersan]

SE needs to run A:S under geared with AST/AST or SCH/AST so they can pin point the problem and fix it.

The Answer is simple don't go in under geared I mean doing it now or later doesn't make much difference it's not like there is any reward for clearing it before anyone else so get the new E tome Ilevel 200 weapon and you will be better off.