Astro in savage

[Dervy]

Did opt for Durinal or Nocturnal Sect with that AST/SCH setup?

[Nihility]

from what i experienced and this is just the first floor

astro with a white mage partner felt just barely maybe doable and everything was in a constant state of emergency
switched to scholar and it all felt pretty smooth and easygoing for healing

the difference was kind of unbelievable

[GeekMatt]

In Diurnal AST is basically WHM with fewer options for both AoE and single target healing, as well as lower potency. Also in exchange for the utility WHM has, AST has RNG cards which can't be counted on and so are removed from the equation (healing has to be dependable for the job to be viable). All that leaves is the ability to extend regen time, Synergy, LightSpeed and Disable.

So as far as AST being too new to determine its ability--if you've played WHM, then its just a matter of knowing how these skills work. Now even if you didn't perform as well as you'd hoped as an AST, you can pretty much gauge whether or not these skills would have solved your issue.

You can argue Nocturnal, but Nocturnal is further below SCH than Diurnal is to WHM.

All in all, this is why I'm REALLY hoping they can solve this issue in a way that isn't just strict potency. AST currently feels pretty unique when playing it compared to other healers, but at the same time it's so close to being a weak WHM when in Diurnal, so the last thing I want is it to be any closer. The really difficult part about this though, is that AST brings a lot of utility and if measured totally on par with WHM or SCH, then it'll instantly become the healer of choice.

[Zilara]

Using DRK/WAR/AST/SCH/BRD/MCH/DRG/NIN, we've been having an unbelievably bad time in A1. Two supports make the group dps a bit suboptimal, which is forcing us to make up the rest of it with tank and healer damage. The trouble is, we can't.

Without the extremely consistent regen from a WHM using Divine Seal, each aoe takes more than one cast to cover, and the tank damage is absolutely absurd. Ideally, we'd only have to run ballad at each jump, and the BRD/MCH combo would top both healers off, but I have no choice but to drop a turret nearly 40 seconds before each jump. Astrologian just doesn't have the throughput or MP regen to cover such an intense fight. To top it off, with how much healing we need, we're forced to open with an Expanded Balance card to catch up to where a group with more consistent healer dps would be.

If there's one thing I can say about it, though, we do open REALLY hard. So far, our record was 56% on the split, but we lost a tank shortly after. That attempt would have been low enough that we didn't need healer damage at all. Conclusion, if every single little thing goes perfectly well, an Astro can handle it. If anything goes wrong, there's no recovery.

[Ehr]

I've tried Savage Floor 1 with my AST yesterday and today and honestly, it feels like AST just doesn't cut it. My SCH co-healer is unable to dps optimally since they have to help me aoe heal and keep the tanks up so I don't run out of mp before the first jump. They haven't said anything to me about my healing output, but I know it's not cutting it. So I decided to halt my SCH leveling and instead take WHM to 60 before it. My static's SCH and WAR both seemed to have caught me doing that and both sent me /tells saying the healing output was fine, but I know it's not. They seem to want me to stay AST and I would like to clear savage on AST just to prove that it can do savage, but it's honestly not capable of doing savage at the current gear level in my opinion.

[Kietsu]

Secondary stats on the AF2 gear are a mess. Same goes for some of the non-healer classes, too.

[Remilia_Nightfall]

Eh. I ran a1 savage for two nights with my static, and I agree that SCH\AST combo is horrible in this fight. Our ast is leveling WHM, will see if that makes the split phase more manageable - currently, keeping everyone alive is a serious problem. As a SCH I don't feel safe dpsing for any relevant amount of time, and the enrage at 8 mins currently REQUIRES healer dps.

[Noira]

Hmm maybe it's just me but I always felt Noc > Regen.

Maybe it's just me but I conserve tons of MP healing in Noc then I do Regen, I only use regen with Sch. HOWEVER take this with a grain of salt as I've yet to heal hard content.

Reason being is because Noc grants me 5% healing power (slight perma "potency buff") The shield means a bit little less healing. Mixed in with Light Speed and I can top the party off without burning tons of mp.

Not to mention the indirect buff it got from lightspeed (the mp cost reduction on top of it not reducing healing potency).

I will have to try Alex Savage before I can make a full call however.

[Arcana]

Hmm maybe it's just me but I always felt Noc > Regen.

Maybe it's just me but I conserve tons of MP healing in Noc then I do Regen, I only use regen with Sch. HOWEVER take this with a grain of salt as I've yet to heal hard content.

Reason being is because Noc grants me 5% healing power (slight perma "potency buff") The shield means a bit little less healing. Mixed in with Light Speed and I can top the party off without burning tons of mp.

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Aspected Benefic on Nocturnal gives you around 1,4k shield using ~750mp, ok, but in diurnal you get "1k shield" on each tick (36 seconds with time dilation) for the same MP. I really love noct stance but diurnal is a lot of better atm and better MP saving.

[Judge_Xero]

Eh. I ran a1 savage for two nights with my static, and I agree that SCH\AST combo is horrible in this fight. Our ast is leveling WHM, will see if that makes the split phase more manageable - currently, keeping everyone alive is a serious problem. As a SCH I don't feel safe dpsing for any relevant amount of time, and the enrage at 8 mins currently REQUIRES healer dps.

Yeah I imagine running two Hybrid Healing class together is never a good idea.
AST = Heal/Party Support
SCH = Heal/DPS

I would try WHM + AST and swap out a bard/mcn before I'd try SCH +AST