Esoteric cap

[NorthernLadMSP]

It is actually less to obtain than poetics was actually. Use to cost 1300 poetics and the tome stone to get a ilvl120 weapon. Now a weapon is only 990 and no tome stone required. Baby steps.

Its up for debate, but I think it is fine where it is. Maybe a little more we can earn a week than it is currently. I don't think we should be able to fully equip various jobs before the next patch hits. Plus we have tokens and Savage gear to use also.

The weapon might be less, but that's not the point of this thread. Poetics, you could easily wear your one healer set on WHM and SCH, the caster set on SMN and BLM and the tank set on PLD and WAR.

These sets are all specific to one job, so no, they are really not less to obtain.

[Felis]

Next ilevel tier will not come before 3.2
So there is enough time to gear up main and alts between now and 3.2
Remove or increase the cap and you will gear the jobs out before 3.2 and have nothing else to buy with esoterics.

The weapon might be less, but that's not the point of this thread. Poetics, you could easily wear your one healer set on WHM and SCH, the caster set on SMN and BLM and the tank set on PLD and WAR.

These sets are all specific to one job, so no, they are really not less to obtain.

Buy gear for the 2-3 jobs you play the most. Buy the gears for the other jobs at 3.2.


Sometime you have to do some decisions in a RPG

[Ultimatecalibur]

I really hate this "we don't want hardcore players to get gears too fast and casual players feel they were left behind".

nobody cares about being left behind. when a new patch comes out, the old gears will be inferior to the new ones anyway so why do we need to wait for casual players when they themselves don't give a damn?

i210 is going to be the top gear until 3.2.

3.1 is going to be a "catch up" patch instead of an ilevel increase with the new 24 man giving out either new i190 or i200 left side pieces.

Also SE has Identified 3 main player groups: Casuals, Midcore and Hardcore. They probably expect each group to end 3.0 with the following ilevels for their main classes:

Hardcore: ~i210
Midcore: ~i200
Casual: i180 to i190

3.1 will have them end at the following ilevels:
Hardcore: i210
Midcore: i210
Casuals: i190 to i200

[Kit-Kat]

It is actually less to obtain than poetics was actually. Use to cost 1300 poetics and the tome stone to get a ilvl120 weapon. Now a weapon is only 990 and no tome stone required. Baby steps.

Except that weekly cap is 450, and you still need 3 weeks to get it, just like old 1300 poetics/soldiery ones.

[Felis]

Except that weekly cap is 450, and you still need 3 weeks to get it, just like old 1300 poetics/soldiery ones.

Your leftovers is now higher, decrease the amount of esoterics you have to farm for the next piece.

[Ultimatecalibur]

The weapon might be less, but that's not the point of this thread. Poetics, you could easily wear your one healer set on WHM and SCH, the caster set on SMN and BLM and the tank set on PLD and WAR.

These sets are all specific to one job, so no, they are really not less to obtain.

You can currently full gear each of those to i190 in 5 weeks through Alex HM and Ravana EX. 3.1 might even remove the loot lock on Alex HM so that you can full gear a role in 20 or less Alex runs.

SE seems to have the following expectations for max gearing levels during 3.0:

Hardcore Main: i210
Midcore Main: i200
Midcore/Hardcore Alts: i190
Casual Mains/Alts: i170 to i190

[Velhart]

The weapon might be less, but that's not the point of this thread. Poetics, you could easily wear your one healer set on WHM and SCH, the caster set on SMN and BLM and the tank set on PLD and WAR.

These sets are all specific to one job, so no, they are really not less to obtain.

Again, you have multiple options to getting better gear for alternate jobs. Even more when 3.1 hits. Its understandable to an extent if you are heavy on BiS, but even then you are going between two gear sets to make that happen.

[Naunet]

Personally I'm more interested in the appearances of the gear than the stats. Kind of lame to think it'll take 20+ weeks just to get two sets of gear, much less all of the others.

It's more like "we don't want the hardcores to gear up everything in a week and then complain about not having any content, and then unsub until the next patch."

This is about the money. By forcing people to slowly upgrade gear instead of binging it being done in three days, they are forcing you to keep your sub up for more than just the month of the patch.

That's why it's acknowledged that the weekly cap is fine at first, but there's no reason to still have the cap 10 weeks from now.

[Zumi]

The 450 cap on the limited tome has been in the game quite some time now use to be 300 when 2.0 first came out I don't know why so many people complaining about it now.

Also that gear is meant to be supplement with alex savage drops, just like 2.0 gear was supplemented with coil drops so it is less then 20+ weeks to get to 210.

[Rin_Kuroi]

The weapon might be less, but that's not the point of this thread. Poetics, you could easily wear your one healer set on WHM and SCH, the caster set on SMN and BLM and the tank set on PLD and WAR.

These sets are all specific to one job, so no, they are really not less to obtain.

I forgot about that. Good point.