Crafting is dead

[kenventa]

I'll hold my horse until Thursdays to see if the difficulty of getting the redscrip would be at least similar, if not easier, than the echatl sealant, which would mean we can spend a load of gil if we wanted to gear up all our crafters in few weeks. This is similar to gearing to Artisan gears x 8.

If they cant get the casual and non-crafters interested in getting redscrip because of its difficulty, then i guess there will be literally no supply of redscrip material in the marketboard and hence, the 50 to 66 weeks of gearing would be our best choice.

[XLauncher]

3.05 is split up into two maintenance sessions. We got the first one last night, which introduced Savage Alex and the new PvP ground, among other things. There will be another one tomorrow that will introduce the means by which we will acquire red scrips, along with some unknown crafting and gathering adjustments. Your guess as to what they'll entail is as good as anyone else's. Personally, I'm not holding out for any kind of salvation. I doubt they'd kick us all in the groin like this in one patch only to walk it back two days later.

[kenventa]

Personally, I'm not holding out for any kind of salvation. I doubt they'd kick us all in the groin like this in one patch only to walk it back two days later.

I guess you can say that considering the availability of blue scripts only to high level crafters. Not even to those level 50 crafters focusing on gearing their DOM/DOW first.

[Rath]

I expect to see the favour nodes for gatherers having these items. The gatherers that have max-melded already will be able to obtain them with their red scrips and sell them. Those that do not, will use their red scrips to gear up first. Seems pretty reasonable.

I expect the crafters that are max-melded will use their red scrips to get mats and craft items, while those that decided not to (the entire reason SE said they created scrips) will first gear up a class with red scrips. By then, these forums will be full of complaints about people not being able to craft these in HQ. You will then have the progression crafters, having made their own HQ crafted gear and melded it, selling the HQ items for a few mill a piece while people with red scrip gear learn to craft these. Looks completely reasonable, and as intended.

It may take longer to saturate the market with materials, but that is not a bad thing.

[Talia_Hailwind]

If crafters focus on progression, nothing will be on sale for months, by which point 3.1 will roll around and the gear will already be obsolete. They're not even worth crafting for glamour because for some strange reason they have the exact same models as the 1 star crafts,

Woah woah woah,

They freaking Re-skinned items for new glamor AGAIN!?!?!

WHEN WILL THIS GLAMOR LAZINESS END?!?!?

Seriously! WTF do our subscriptions go towards now-a-days!?!?

RIOT! (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[Netherblood]

Agree crafting is dead, unless you have so much time on your hands that you can level multiple characters to have all specializations by yourself and that way you can get more red scrips per week. Though I thought the whole point of this game is to not have to make multiple characters and to have everything on one character. They can easily fix this by removing weekly cap from red scrips, kinda like gear from talan was in mor dhona. You could buy full set in 1 day.

[Kenji1134]

Agree crafting is dead, unless you have so much time on your hands that you can level multiple characters to have all specializations by yourself and that way you can get more red scrips per week. Though I thought the whole point of this game is to not have to make multiple characters and to have everything on one character. They can easily fix this by removing weekly cap from red scrips, kinda like gear from talan was in mor dhona. You could buy full set in 1 day.

Or, keep Red Scrips, keep the cap on Red Scrips, but make the exact same items obtainable via... lets say 3x as many Blue Scrips?
As people have said in other threads, crafting is a game where the most important resource is TIME. Not skill, but time... so if someone wants to spend some stupid amount of time grinding Blue Scrips to get gear... let them!

[DarthBuzzer]

I expect to see the favour nodes for gatherers having these items. The gatherers that have max-melded already will be able to obtain them with their red scrips and sell them. Those that do not, will use their red scrips to gear up first. Seems pretty reasonable.

The favour system will likely reward the mats needed in combination with a red scrip token for the new red scrip mats since they are currently unobtainable.

[Snugglebutt]

Crafting is in no way, shape or form dead. I have been making a small fortune of late from crafters buying my HW content materials which I gathered and it is the same for everyone else I know in game of which I then pump that same money back in to level my own crafters quickly via the markets.

There may be an issue with red scripts but it is having little to no effect on the economy of my world. If anything the economy is thriving due to all the new recipes and materials despite any complaints you have about blue or red scripts. I have been making money almost as fast as I have been spending it and that is thanks to how vibrant the crafting community currently is in their desire to craft.

[giantslayer]

My 2 Gil is that this sounds about as bad as 4-star when it was first introduced. A good week or two after patch, Ehcatl Sealants were around half a million Gil a pop. I had estimated the cost of buying all the Ehcatl Sealants, MCDs, and FC3s necessary for full gear to about 40 million Gil. All that for what? To make sub-par i110 left side gear that used COIL DROPS. Allagan leathers were 500-800k a pop for months on my server.

I basically said screw this, I'm going to gear myself with Poetics, use 3-star to make Gil, and hope prices come down eventually.

I look at this and have to wonder is it really that much worse? Mats gated behind red scrips instead of coils? Red scrips instead of Ehcatl sealants? At least you don't have to grind pointless Ixali crap for months to be able to get red scrips like you did for Ehcatl sealants.