Crafting is dead

[Nezerius]

So, what's the time-frame to fully gear all 8?

Honestly, I missed the time-wall for Poetics, and I find the idea of 3 weeks for a weapon (I have about three weeks left on my sub) to be too much. I'm also a builder-o'-the-realm though, and so I decided to see if crafting was in a better place (and then I could do that instead of esoteric grinding). It seems to actually be worse considering leveling just one crafter isn't particularly viable financially. Ouch.

If you're getting all of the red scrips yourself, it'll take almost a year to fully gear every crafting job
That's assuming you take this route of gearing:

Unmeldable gear

• 1300 scrips per unmeldable mainhand tool/10400 in total
• 900 scrips per unmeldable chestpiece/4500 in total

Meldable gear (using scrips to buy the materials)

• 150 scrips per head/1200 in total
• 150 scrips per gloves/1200 in total
• 150 scrips per boots/1200 in total
• 200 scrips per pants/2000 in total

Crafted-only gear

• 150 scrips per offhand/1200 in total
• 100 scrips per accessory (necklace, earrings, wrist, belt)/400 in total
• 50 scrips per ring/100 in total

For a grand total of 22200 red scrips. At 450 per week, that will take 50 weeks to get (49.3 to be exact) or 2 weeks less than a year.
It'll be less if you also get the meldable versions of the mainhand tools and chestpieces, or if you buy the materials off the marketboard. But melding will be very pricey when trying to get the stats on par with the unmeldable versions.

Though, I assume they'll nerf the cost of the gear before then, hopefully.

[Sleepyjo2]

So, what's the time-frame to fully gear all 8?

Honestly, I missed the time-wall for Poetics, and I find the idea of 3 weeks for a weapon (I have about three weeks left on my sub) to be too much. I'm also a builder-o'-the-realm though, and so I decided to see if crafting was in a better place (and then I could do that instead of esoteric grinding). It seems to actually be worse considering leveling just one crafter isn't particularly viable financially. Ouch.

It's like 8.2 weeks or something to just buy the gear for a single class or something like that. I did the math earlier but am not sure if I'm remembering correctly. Assuming that number is correct it puts it at 65.6 weeks to gear all 8 using only the scrip items.

At some point it would be more cost efficient to buy the materials and craft some gear, but still.

[Magistrella]

So, what's the time-frame to fully gear all 8?

Well, first we need to compare HQ i170 meldable gear (crafted) and i180 not meldable token gear

for example sake lets compare the GSM bodies: i170 HQ: 4 CP 70 Control 225 Craftmanship - i180 token: 4 CP 75 Control 239 Craftmanship

18 token for the body + 1 counterfoil (i have no clue how to get them yet)

Materials for the crafted body: 4 token for the materials and after that a shitload of luck to HQ it in the beginning even with melded gear, 447 CP and specialization skills. (not to mention the 4 field demi materia, the 14 precrafts and items you need from fieldcraft - aka get 4950 scrip for a stupid book so you can get 1 or 2 materials)

If you just go with token gear (hell, i know that's what ill be doing for wvr/ltw so i can craft the rest of the gear, maybe...) you will need 48 token for the gear + 26 for the tool, so 74 total, or 3700 scrip - or 8 weeks + 100 scrip from the next week. So a good 2 month for one class.

Which means in the end if you just want to go with token gear you will need a total of 66 weeks to be able to get them all. Or 1 year and 3 month 1 week. Overkill FTW!

If you just get token gear for WVR/LTW and craft the rest tho, you will be considerably faster. You will be able to get 2 pieces per week, sometimes 3. But hey, that still puts you down 16 weeks of mindless grinding for materials

[Hanmerreborn]

You guys just aren't seeing the beauty of it. But thankfully I know how important crafting will be for the next series of relic weapons.

First, it'll be in patch 3.2, in which we would have gone from blue to red to orange.

Now, you need 50 orange tokens of gathering, which costs 1000 orange scripts each. You can get 300 orange weekly.

With the 50 tokens, you obtain the mistress' luck scroll.

Go to any area in the game and use it (including dungeons). If you're lucky, a level 90 difficulty node will appear with one of 8 random materials, each used by a single class in it's crafts. If it does not, better luck next time! The correct location rotates every in game hour, so if you don't make it in time, the node will disappear, so move quickly!

Now, to get orange crafting scripts (15, 16, 17 based on collectability), you need to make a level 90 HQ difficulty item called "the purple <class name>". Each element will need 5 of the class materials gathered in the level 90 nodes, and 5 of another predetermined class. For instance, for weaver, you would need 5 omega fibers to make a single omega cloth, and also require an omega vial of uselessness, an alchemist creation that uses it's 5 materials.

For 3000 orange scripts (weekly cap 50), you then can buy a single material (24 required) for your legendary relic, an amazing ilvl 195, which in patch 3.5 will be able to get up to 210 after even more quests!

But there's more! Because we want the relics to make you look in style, it'll have the same model as the level 1 weathered items, because everything old is new again!

Glamour it away!

[_Kakera_]

I spent all my available free day time making spicy relishes again to desynth artisan glasses.

Not one MCD. One FCIII.

Why is this grind back? Who decided at SE that MCDs and FCIIIs were a nice to bring back?

[Roth_Trailfinder]

Meh ... haven't done my homework, I'll admit that up front. But unless the materials to create the crafted gear are similarly time-gated, I could see getting a few pieces of token gear, just enough t HQ the crafted stuff, and then just make that. No point in fully outfitting with the token gear.

[Aeyis]

Meh ... haven't done my homework, I'll admit that up front. But unless the materials to create the crafted gear are similarly time-gated, I could see getting a few pieces of token gear, just enough t HQ the crafted stuff, and then just make that. No point in fully outfitting with the token gear.

They are. They require 3-4 (for left side and tools) materials, made by 5 items from red scripts. You buy a set of 5 with 50 red scrips. As such you are limited to only obtaining 9 materials per week. Which translates to 2-3 items made each week.

Since every single 2* item requires these items, you wont be making anything new for selling or for friends/fc, for as long as you are equiping yourself.

[Yumi_umi]

Why does se aleays have to go to the extremes >_>
Its like they dunno when's enough is enough.
Its such a hardcore grind ( involves master demi & fc3 AGAIN WTF ) that requires old grindy stuff from 2.x era.
So its like a grind cheese sandwich. You grind all of that just for glamour and furniture yay...

[Roth_Trailfinder]

Well THAT bytes ...

[Sapphic]

Well THAT bytes ...

It mega bytes! :P If it doesn't Kil o byte off crafting ^^

Look at it this way, it's a system that is probably giving Gil sellers wet dreams :S

They hate it just like anyone with a brain (which thankfully is the vast majority)

Well, that should mean more chance of it being revisited and revised.