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    kaya_suzumiya's Avatar
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    Tina Minami
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by kenventa View Post
    I have to correct you. Gather A LOT MORE than 11 hours a week since you would need to account the amount of time getting the red scrips. I had barely time to craft or to raid anymore.

    And actually, what i think the saddest thing is with the changes is the lack of attention we are getting from Yoshida or the Dev Team.

    in between red scrip gathering nodes u can use a favor meaning its about 11hrs or slightly less all up. its quick to gather the red scrips for gathering seeing as u can get 2-4 items to hand in per node and if u hit the legendary nodes for botany and miner its even quicker to cap and also some of the fish which u can hand in for red scrips u can fish 24/7 so for gathering u can cap within 4 -5 hrs easy then use those to either buy favor for crafting gear or use it to buy gear.
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    Chida Rake
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    Your lucky to have got mats to make 1 item a week! lol

    I have had 450 red crafter scrips since 30 mins after the patch and not managed to get enough of the favor items to get any mats...

    I don't gather and people will likely say "haha hard luck lvl gathers newb", but I am a crafter, I have no wish to gather.
    ive seen you on this forum posting so many times over the last year sharing knowledge and helping people, you've been a major crafter and yet you of all people and people like yourself cant even get 1 piece of gear because of this new system says something doesn't it.?

    as surely the most dedicated crafters in this game should be able to gear up. gated is fine heck getting field 3's way back when was a major chore, but atleast that fell onto us to be willing to spend our time to grind those things out. as did all previous crafting progression steps.

    this current system breaks what has made crafting fun and sometimes frustrating in this game.

    I myself spent 3-4 days to max my crafters and gatherers so I would be in a good place for when new stuff came out. I held back on melds for the chimerical set to see what would be needed so I could meet the stat req's to make the new gear, then I see that it means nothing because we are all gated behind bs weekly lock out that relies so heavily on gatherer and crafter classes supplies at a time when the majority of people playing the game have not even bothered to level one of these classes.

    surely someone in the dev team must of said to Yoshi that this system is broken in so many ways, are you really sure you want to piss of the crafter / gatherer player-base.??

    the problem with the current bis set is not that there is nothing to make with it to recoup costs as that chance will come im sure, its just that when that chance comes the things you can make will be so over priced to the point that only a very small % of people could potentially afford it. especially given the amount of mats that will be needed, like 10 dusk leathers or some such nonsense.

    things already have very inflated prices, like chimera manes selling for 5k a pop nq and that's the cheaper price now. heck even deep eye tears are still selling for 6k a pop nq and mogpoms at 8knq. screw crafting im gathering for gil and not taking part in this stupid ass grind. and in the case of something like mogpoms theres no rng as you always get a mogpom from that fishing hole.
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    Last edited by chidarake; 07-28-2015 at 04:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chidarake View Post
    as surely the most dedicated crafters in this game should be able to gear up. gated is fine heck getting field 3's way back when was a major chore, but atleast that fell onto us to be willing to spend our time to grind those things out. as did all previous crafting progression steps.

    this current system breaks what has made crafting fun and sometimes frustrating in this game.
    Yeah :/

    I was mostly fine with the previous "gates" for high end crafting, but weekly lockout on mats is just insane.

    Worse because you need to be a pretty serious gatherer to get favors, but even then, the ones who would like to make gil farming them can't due to the lockouts.
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    Player LongsunZhao's Avatar
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    Longsun Zhao
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Well. If they ignore us. There loss. After the customer service received in FFXIV. I doubt I'll ever buy another SE product. They don't care. So you know what. Neither do I. I will recommend everyone plays Elder scrolls without this monthly fee. Which is no longer worth it. You destroy your game SE. Now it's time to either fix it. Or lose subscriber's. At the moment. heavensward is the worst thing to happen to this game and I'm not paying for the privilege of 10m gil scriptures. Crafting is also a complete joke. Goodbye FFXIV. Disappointed ia not the word.
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    Katchoo Choovanski
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    Anybody else find it annoying that the crafting gear is 2* rather than say 1* like it was in 2.00

    Patricians help you make > 1* Crafting help you make > 2* crafting.

    rather than...

    lvl60 > make 2* crafting > make 2* crafting slightly easier for 1 craft over several weeks?

    Seems dumb to me.
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    Viper Lv 100
    I haven't tried red scrips yet. Been to busy leveling alts, but If I have 8 characters on the same server that can all farm red scrips. Is their a way I should handle it for my main?
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    Sakuja Itami
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinun View Post
    I haven't tried red scrips yet. Been to busy leveling alts, but If I have 8 characters on the same server that can all farm red scrips. Is their a way I should handle it for my main?
    unless they also farm favors for 11 hours each, there isnt much use into leveling alts to farm crafter red scrips. Unless you are rich as fuck and can buy all the favor mats
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    Elinchayilani N'jala
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Shinun View Post
    I haven't tried red scrips yet. Been to busy leveling alts, but If I have 8 characters on the same server that can all farm red scrips. Is their a way I should handle it for my main?
    Favors would be a problem for you. It takes 11 hours per alt to cap the materials from favors. Per week.
    However, having just a single alt would make obtaining the materials flexible enough for you to actually cap your crafting scrips materials made for the week.

    With only one character it simply isnt possible to obtain enough favor materials to make all 9 weekly refined materials.
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    Last edited by Aeyis; 07-28-2015 at 10:21 PM.

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    J'karr Nbolo
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    So endgame crafting is gated behind gathering!?

    I'm gonna meld out i150 anyway in hopes that SE sees the light and makes mats more accessible.
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    Blain Adamant
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by BushWookie View Post
    So endgame crafting is gated behind gathering!?
    Isn't everything gated behind gathering?^^ Jokes aside, you can get very good gear (mainhand and body) for yourself with crafting alone (through the exchange of red scrips tokens). It takes a bit longer (5 weekly caps of red scrips) and you need materials (as always) from gathering, too. But they aren't limited.

    That aside, all the new 2 star crafts are very limited, yes.
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    Last edited by Seyb; 07-29-2015 at 01:55 AM.

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