This patch dropped the ball hard

[ckc22]

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I don't even mind grinding! I'd grind the tomes out all day honestly. The caps are the part that bug me. I understand that they do it because it prevents people from gearing up too quickly and beating their new content too quickly, and then unsubbing, but it just feels kinda smarmy.

I'm not one of those people who's going to unsub for 3 months once I have my job geared and have beaten alex, personally I don't think you should design your game around those people but I'm not in charge.

[Higashikata]

yeah, they shouldn't do this.

They should just make it so I can get better gear than raid gear in less time than it takes to clear the raids!

[Nix]

I don't even mind grinding! I'd grind the tomes out all day honestly. The caps are the part that bug me. I understand that they do it because it prevents people from gearing up too quickly and beating their new content too quickly, and then unsubbing, but it just feels kinda smarmy.

I'm not one of those people who's going to unsub for 3 months once I have my job geared and have beaten alex, personally I don't think you should design your game around those people but I'm not in charge.

I can't hit the like button on your post more than once sadly D: I tried! but it wouldn't let me.

[Nix]

yeah, they shouldn't do this.

They should just make it so I can get better gear than raid gear in less time than it takes to clear the raids!

No one's asking for that :3
I fully believe that if people are going to haul ass in raids that they should be handsomely rewarded for it~

Honestly I'd be happy if they made the raid gear all BiS, but I haven't had much time today to actually sit down and statcrunch (wooooo~! studying!), though I've heard some say that the Savage gear isn't BiS for a bunch of pieces, which is kinda odd! But again, I'll have to sit down and see for myself.

That being said, I do think they could have been a bit kinder with the tomes malarky, especially for what isn't meant to be top tier gear. D:

[Kogasan]

So that people, who do the real raid, can upgrade their gears first. The other people have to wait until 3.15 (i guess) to get it from the next casual 24 man raid.

Which to me is unfair and shouldn't be the case. We all should be able to upgrade at the same time. Not just raiders. Se really needs to change this. Also why does SE want to get people to unsub so much. Don't they realize by now that all the raiders are gonna do is get there estorics gear,upgrade it, and then unsub till there is more content for them to do. Really SE what's the point in only letting raiders atm upgrade there estorics gear?

[Naraku_Diabolos]

Hey, hey, hey! Remember what the devs did with 2.5(5)? They removed weekly restrictions for EVERYTHING. Don't worry about grinding to get the best gear. Sure you can show off with higher iLvl and all, but it would be best as to not rush things. I didn't rush the MSQ in 2.0 and I just entered Ishgard on Saturday night. I'm taking my time leveling at my own pace. The devs made this game so you can do that. They don't expect people to devote their lives to the game 24/7. By the time I get past the MSQ 3.0, a lot of the restrictions will be gone by then. And you know what? 4.0 will be right around the corner...so remember, come end of Heavensward, all weekly restrictions will be eliminated. So relax and enjoy the game until then.

[Ooshima]

Which to me is unfair and shouldn't be the case. We all should be able to upgrade at the same time. Not just raiders. Se really needs to change this. Also why does SE want to get people to unsub so much. Don't they realize by now that all the raiders are gonna do is get there estorics gear,upgrade it, and then unsub till there is more content for them to do. Really SE what's the point in only letting raiders atm upgrade there estorics gear?

Hah. Wait longer.

[Kogasan]

Hah. Wait longer.

So what your saying is you agree with what SE is doing. It's ok agree with them if you wish. But my ? still remains why does SE want people to unsub so bad? Do they not realize most if not all the real raiders are only gonna like I said get there bis upgrade them then unsub till new content. Tell me how is that smart for business?

[LunaHoshino]

Honestly I'd be happy if they made the raid gear all BiS, but I haven't had much time today to actually sit down and statcrunch (wooooo~! studying!), though I've heard some say that the Savage gear isn't BiS for a bunch of pieces, which is kinda odd!

It's not odd-- it's exactly the same as it was in 2.xx. BiS gear was a mixture of Ironworks and Dreadwyrm to ensure that both were relevant to endgame.

[ZemusM]

Which to me is unfair and shouldn't be the case. We all should be able to upgrade at the same time. Not just raiders. Se really needs to change this. Also why does SE want to get people to unsub so much. Don't they realize by now that all the raiders are gonna do is get there estorics gear,upgrade it, and then unsub till there is more content for them to do. Really SE what's the point in only letting raiders atm upgrade there estorics gear?

People who invest more time and effort should be rewarded accordingly and people who can't shouldn't its that simple.

I don't have a static for Savage but I would like to find one. But until I do im fine with getting i200 gear for my DK while I figure that out knowing when I can raid there are upgrades.

YOU are NOT entitled to every single aspect of the game if YOU are not willing to WORK for it. Running dungeons all day that are simple with no effort should not yield the SAME gear as the people who slave over Savage to finally kill the boss and are rewarded with the exact same gear. If SE changed the game to what you want I would quit without thought.

Stop thinking everyone is on equal ground. If you don't give a game effort you don't progress. This is factual for ALL types of games.

FFXIV has been running this system for 2 years now. Subs are increasing, profits are great, the game is getting better, but you think everyone will unsub from the game?, Numbers clearly prove you false or this game would have gone Free to play as fast as other terrible recent MMO's like ESO, Wildstar, and SWG. Those games failed because of devs who didn't care about their subscribers. SE cares enough to give us major content updates as part of our sub every quarter with new raids and dungeons, Something no other Dev has done and yet their games fail and FFXIV is growing.

Keep Dreaming, what SE and YoshiP are doing is the future of HOW TO RUN an MMO from here on out.