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    Player
    Gramul's Avatar
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    Eisen Gramul
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    Hyperion
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    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    And this should be changed. Yoshida isn't even giving it a chance.
    And it will be changed. Soon as better endgame gear comes out, they'll make a harder way to obtain that and nerf the previous ways.
    Same with every other job for every major patch sense the game got renewed. It's how linear progression MMOs work.
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    Sarynth Midgard
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    I'm just confused why gear this patch is being replaced so quickly. We had 170/180 a week, replaced by 190 gear, which was replaced a week later by 200/210 gear. Given the time it takes to get a set of the 190 goodies it didn't make sense to already be offering replacements on the gear treadmill lol. As for the weekly cap I'm not surprised at all. Say hello to darklight and myth gear all over again though this time we get weapons. Also the 900 eso cost for weapons is cheaper than previous tomes weapons.
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    Cole Evyx
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    Sure is, maybe not for everyone.



    Lame. That line is used way to often. No one ask for everything to be done in a day or a week.

    Oh and btw people will be saying there isn't anything to do soon. Savage is going to lock out 85% of the player base, 450 tomes that won't take long and we're back to 2.0 all over again.

    Least 2.0 had relic. i want relic.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    SE are such trolls with this.

    "Oh you know that Law and Alex gear you got? It's now worthless!"

    Welp, there go my hopes of not having to upgrade things for my main for once. T_T
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    Sapphic Meow
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    Odin
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    SE are such trolls with this.
    Will take 3 weeks to get the esoterics weapon, during that time you are getting 190 upgrades from Alex normal (and maybe trying Alex savage). 3 weeks you have your Eso weap, 2 weeks then for the chest....

    So how are they pointless?

    Also, GL doing Alex in 160 gear...
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    Syvic Zivota
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    Seraph
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaFox View Post
    Sure sounds that way to me.

    It's really not when you actually break down the game. You think you're doing work and earning the gear? When in actuality you're only spending roughly a half hour doing a raid or a daily, then you're locked out until next week. So the time you spent after that wave of so called "progression" you aren't actually progressing, in reality you could obtain the best stuff in the game without a lockout in likely less then day. But if you read previous posts you'd know that's not what myself or others want, we want more ways to obtain the gear instead of completing again one raid level or 3 daily roulettes and being doing with the game until next week. But hey if you can't see people want more to do then just sit around for a week twiddling our thumbs then I don't know what to tell you.
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    Fate Bringer
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Yep, welcome to fatigue system 2.0 lol... people wanted casual, you got it now. Careful what you wish for.
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    Syvic Zivota
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    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    Esoterics is all obtained with unrelated content, how is roulette related to any of that gear?
    Esoterics is viewed as nonraid gear, so it makes sense it's obtained through the roulette. However the item to upgrade it is obtained through the raid. Since you don't obtain esoteric through the raid this makes the process of getting the gear pointless, as we obtain raid gear in the process.
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    Tea Mysidia
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    Phoenix
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    Rogue Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    Esoterics is viewed as nonraid gear, so it makes sense it's obtained through the roulette. However the item to upgrade it is obtained through the raid. Since you don't obtain esoteric through the raid this makes the process of getting the gear pointless, as we obtain raid gear in the process.
    Yep. You get upgrades to esoterics as well as gear that is at least as good as upgraded esoterics. Why not maybe make savage gear 220 and give the eosterics upgrade to stuff somewhere between story and savage. like the new 24-man
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    However the item to upgrade it is obtained through the raid. Since you don't obtain esoteric through the raid this makes the process of getting the gear pointless, as we obtain raid gear in the process.
    the process of getting which gear pointless? most raid groups that are not Lucrezia are going to need Eso weapons to pass DPS checks in Savage and they are going to need upgraded Eso gear + Savage gear to clear A4S.
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