This patch dropped the ball hard

[Rita1989]

Yea, I have to say SE is making me want to bang my head on the desk. In less than a week you made Alexander: Normal gear obsolete

Alexander gear is not obsolete your not going to be able to get full tome gear for a long while so the gear will still be relevant for a while still especially if you have more then 1 job and Alexander normal is so easy anyways so it shouldn't be better.

[Dyvid]

Alexander gear is not obsolete your not going to be able to get full tome gear for a long while so the gear will still be relevant for a while still especially if you have more then 1 job and Alexander normal is so easy anyways so it shouldn't be better.

Not really if you base it on actually time played verse what you can actually get in a week. I would say 2.XX it would take 3 hours to cap 450, you know make that 4 hours stretching it. You'll need 3510 to get the 5 major (head, body, gloves, legs, waist) items or 20 actually hours of work. A:N raid is hard to quantify due to the looting system. You my get two lenses in 2 runs or it may take 20 runs using the same DF you farm tomes with. It's really depends on the looting.

Now if you want to break that down by weeks. It'll take 8 weeks for those 5 eso items and 6 weeks? for A:N. So nearly the same time frame. Plus tome cap normally goes away after next 3 month patch. Maybe people are forgetting A:N has a weekly cap too.

[Craiger]

Not really if you base it on actually time played verse what you can actually get in a week. I would say 2.XX it would take 3 hours to cap 450, you know make that 4 hours stretching it. You'll need 3510 to get the 5 major (head, body, gloves, legs, waist) items or 24 actually hours of work. A:N raid is hard to quantify due to the looting system. You my get two lenses in 2 runs or it may take 20 runs using the same DF you farm tomes with. It's really depends on the looting.

Now if you want to break that down by weeks. It'll take 8 weeks for those 5 eso items and 6 weeks? for A:N. So nearly the same time frame. Plus tome cap normally goes away after next 3 month patch. Maybe people are forgetting A:N has a weekly cap too.

What are you talking about? Who cares about only getting main pieces... It takes 14 weeks (!!!) to get full Esoteric gear. That's 14 weeks of Alex Normal gear making a difference.

The weapon is the best upgrade to get, so for most players, it's 3 weeks now without a single Esoteric piece, making the Alex Normal gear very much relevant.

The new 24 man raid is probably out before you get all those pieces, but it's still months of Alex normal gear being relevant.

Also, the tome cap never goes away after just 3 months... not until there's a new tome in 6 months or so

[Daerthalus]

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I agree, I would have prefered a system more like this:

Law: 170
Boosted Law: 180 // Hunts
Ex-Primal: 190
Alex: 190
Esoteric: 190
Boosted Eso: 200 // Via Weekly Quest / Hunts
S-Alex: 200-210

[Craiger]

I agree, I would have prefered a system more like this:

Law: 170
Boosted Law: 180 // Hunts
Ex-Primal: 190
Alex: 190
Esoteric: 190
Boosted Eso: 200 // Via Weekly Quest / Hunts
S-Alex: 200-210

Well... then people would complain about not being able to get the highest ilvl gear without doing Savage...

Esoteric gear is better than Alex normal gear, yes... but unless you really don't care about your stats at all, you still want to prioritize getting the Esoteric gear that complements your Alex normal gear the best way possible. So if Alex normal chest is good, but legs bad, you get Esoteric legs first etc.

It will take you a long time replacing all that Alex normal gear for esoteric gear, and you need to have both if you want to do Alex Savage.

[Daerthalus]

Well... then people would complain about not being able to get the highest ilvl gear without doing Savage...

Esoteric gear is better than Alex normal gear, yes... but unless you really don't care about your stats at all, you still want to prioritize getting the Esoteric gear that complements your Alex normal gear the best way possible. So if Alex normal chest is good, but legs bad, you get Esoteric legs first etc.

It will take you a long time replacing all that Alex normal gear for esoteric gear, and you need to have both if you want to do Alex Savage.

I hate to admit it, but I kinda feel anyone clearing Savage deserves +1o ilvl gear.
What I don't think is right is that Alex gear is obsoleted by Eso gear.
Unless you are running Savage, there is really no need to bother with upgrading Law gear or even fighting over Alex Gear.

[Kogasan]

Oh so us burning our butts off for eso is not putting in work. Bah I don't agree with that. Yah you guys put in little more work then we do I agree to that but just little. Does that mean because you guys put in that little more work that you guys should get exclusive treatment heck no.

[Destomius]

lol @ people who think alex normal gear is obsolete.

you actually need gear from there to make alex savage progression easier, unless you want to wait several weeks for full esoterics set.

also lol @ people who don't understand the concept of doing the hardest content to get the best rewards. people who raid put in a considerable amount of time and effort into clearing the content. why shouldn't they be rewarded with the best gear? it's been like this ever since 2.0 and it should never, ever change.

[Khalithar]

TBH I'm just surprised they added a higher ilevel before people could even finish their Alexander sets. But I'm not against it, it gives me something to work towards plus it will keep me busy for a while. Alexander spam is a good way to build up esoterics and I'm sure the new 24m raid will drop ilevel 200 pieces, esoterics, and stuff to upgrade the esoteric gear.

[FoxyAreku]

The OP says he's "Forced" to do Alex savage to upgrade his esoteric gear.

Tell me, if you don't want to do alex savage, then why do you care about upgrading that gear? Something people never understand in MMOs, if you aren't doing the hard content, you don't NEED good gear.

You can do literally everything else in this game EASILY with just full law. >_>