This patch dropped the ball hard

[Felis]

Why even have estoric gear with the ability to upgrade it if half of us can't even do so. Sounds stupid imo.

So that people, who do the real raid, can upgrade their gears first. The other people have to wait until 3.15 (i guess) to get it from the next casual 24 man raid.

[Kogasan]

So that people, who do the real raid, can upgrade their gears first. The other people have to wait until 3.15 (i guess) to get it from the next casual 24 man raid.

Which to me is unfair and shouldn't be the case. We all should be able to upgrade at the same time. Not just raiders. Se really needs to change this. Also why does SE want to get people to unsub so much. Don't they realize by now that all the raiders are gonna do is get there estorics gear,upgrade it, and then unsub till there is more content for them to do. Really SE what's the point in only letting raiders atm upgrade there estorics gear?

[Ooshima]

Which to me is unfair and shouldn't be the case. We all should be able to upgrade at the same time. Not just raiders. Se really needs to change this. Also why does SE want to get people to unsub so much. Don't they realize by now that all the raiders are gonna do is get there estorics gear,upgrade it, and then unsub till there is more content for them to do. Really SE what's the point in only letting raiders atm upgrade there estorics gear?

Hah. Wait longer.

[Kogasan]

Hah. Wait longer.

So what your saying is you agree with what SE is doing. It's ok agree with them if you wish. But my ? still remains why does SE want people to unsub so bad? Do they not realize most if not all the real raiders are only gonna like I said get there bis upgrade them then unsub till new content. Tell me how is that smart for business?

[Ooshima]

So what your saying is you agree with what SE is doing. It's ok agree with them if you wish. But my ? still remains why does SE want people to unsub so bad? Do they not realize most if not all the real raiders are only gonna like I said get there bis upgrade them then unsub till new content. Tell me how is that smart for business?

Reason why you don't run a business, and Yoshida do. And he has done it well to bring FFXIV from the ashes of 1.0 to where it is now.

Every business person who worth their salt knows that they can't have everyone as their customer and thus they need to think how they could appeal to as much and as wide of a customer base as possible.

Exactly why Yoshida have to make rewards and appeals to players who have the appetite for more.

No way a brand title like Final Fantasy is going to go down to be a casual as f*** game like playing Maple Story so have fun thinking that those who managed to clear top contents shouldn't have their fair share of rewards. Unhappy? Please go ahead and unsub. Games should be making you happy.

[Aeyis]

No way a brand title like Final Fantasy is going to go down to be a casual as f*** game like playing Maple Story so have fun thinking that those who managed to clear top contents shouldn't have their fair share of rewards. Unhappy? Please go ahead and unsub. Games should be making you happy.

This game doesnt feel like a Final Fantasy game at all. Or atleast it hasnt since 1.0

[Ooshima]

Are you always so hostile?

Not really, depends on what topic and person on hand I deal with B)

I'm just being straightforward with my opinion. I don't believe in things being equal.

I mean there is a lot of things people go for in this game. People going for all the legendary fishes and obtaining the respective titles, people rushing for the Fennir mount because that would make them feel special because it is rare. I mean that's just human isn't it? We like to have new things, something special. And that you need to earn for, if not everyone would be just having the same thing.

So I don't see why competent raiders should not deserve anything special. They certainly do.

[ZemusM]

Which to me is unfair and shouldn't be the case. We all should be able to upgrade at the same time. Not just raiders. Se really needs to change this. Also why does SE want to get people to unsub so much. Don't they realize by now that all the raiders are gonna do is get there estorics gear,upgrade it, and then unsub till there is more content for them to do. Really SE what's the point in only letting raiders atm upgrade there estorics gear?

People who invest more time and effort should be rewarded accordingly and people who can't shouldn't its that simple.

I don't have a static for Savage but I would like to find one. But until I do im fine with getting i200 gear for my DK while I figure that out knowing when I can raid there are upgrades.

YOU are NOT entitled to every single aspect of the game if YOU are not willing to WORK for it. Running dungeons all day that are simple with no effort should not yield the SAME gear as the people who slave over Savage to finally kill the boss and are rewarded with the exact same gear. If SE changed the game to what you want I would quit without thought.

Stop thinking everyone is on equal ground. If you don't give a game effort you don't progress. This is factual for ALL types of games.

FFXIV has been running this system for 2 years now. Subs are increasing, profits are great, the game is getting better, but you think everyone will unsub from the game?, Numbers clearly prove you false or this game would have gone Free to play as fast as other terrible recent MMO's like ESO, Wildstar, and SWG. Those games failed because of devs who didn't care about their subscribers. SE cares enough to give us major content updates as part of our sub every quarter with new raids and dungeons, Something no other Dev has done and yet their games fail and FFXIV is growing.

Keep Dreaming, what SE and YoshiP are doing is the future of HOW TO RUN an MMO from here on out.

[ckc22]

People who invest more time and effort should be rewarded accordingly and people who can't shouldn't its that simple.

Don't you think the whole concept of a weekly lockout on anything goes against your main point then?

I'm not going to get into the rest of "the only point of the game is raiding" thing though.