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  1. #71
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    Remilia_Nightfall's Avatar
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    Reimu Hakurei
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by amihavingfunyet View Post
    All of Eos' CDs, Rouse, Virus. Edit: Dissipation for 3 Aetherflow stacks is also possible, if you expect 3 stacks to help you more than a fairy.
    Pressence of Mind, Divine Seal, Asylum, Assize (Virus, but you'd let your SCH do that).
    Are you serious? How can you believe those things to be better than 10 seconds of instant heals at reduced cost?

    Do you really believe retardEos and virus can save tanks getting mauled? And even then, people here suggest dissipate to get more Aetherflow. Oops, no more fairy.
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    Last edited by Remilia_Nightfall; 07-21-2015 at 10:26 PM.

  2. #72
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    Parawill's Avatar
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    Spark Joy
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    Faerie
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    In my opinion, I believe they want to test out the healing side of AST in Savage. Albeit the obvious annoyance with Collective Unconscious still requiring you to channel the spell, it has become more worth it to use in Diurnal. I think we need to broaden our perspective with it and give it a second chance, though I am still a bit iffy about it (teehee :P).

    On a side note, I'm really happy with the Ewer & Spire Changes. The refresh is quite nice since we no longer have a resource coupon with a short expiry date, but rather a flow of resources that can help way more! Super excited to go in with AST though. The swap between Expanded & Extended Royal Road is going to be fun to get used to again, lol. I think we may have already have gotten used to Spear/Arrow being Expanded and Ewer/Spire being Extended.

    Oh well More to learn & get used to.
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    Last edited by Parawill; 07-21-2015 at 10:28 PM.

  3. #73
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    Vihalo's Avatar
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    Avens Cook
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    Lich
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Crater View Post
    I think people are either under the impression that Lightspeed is doing something that it actually doesn't, or they don't seem to understand that reducing cast time without also reducing recast time doesn't actually affect how much you can heal.
    This is still the problem unfortunately. That's why Lightspeed is not a emergency heal.
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  4. #74
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    Miiu's Avatar
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    Shila Lail
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    Shiva
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall View Post
    >> Loads of AST complaining for the lack of burst healing and emergency CDs
    >> Get burst healing and emergency CDs (with reduced mana costs and zero cast time)
    >> Complain because those skills can now be used for that

    [...]
    Please dont forget about the globalcooldown which is still pretty much active with the use of Lightspeed.
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  5. #75
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    Jade Nixx
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall View Post
    Are you serious? How can you believe those things to be better than 10 seconds of instant heals at reduced cost?

    Do you really believe retardEos and virus can save tanks getting mauled? Gods..
    They're not "instant" heals. There's still 2.5 seconds (or whatever your GCD happens to be; Lightspeed doesn't shorten it) between each heal.

    You move the first one forward by about two seconds, because you don't need the initial cast time, but the recast time is the same, and when Lightspeed expires, you have to wait an extra two seconds at the end, because first you cast your last ""instant"" heal, then you have to wait 2.5s for the GCD to cycle, then you have to start casting your next GCD heal, which takes two seconds, for a total of 4.5 seconds between your last Lightspeed cure and your first non-Lightspeed cure.

    You basically get to "borrow" a bit of time and get a heal two seconds earlier, but you have to pay it back and wait the extra two seconds once Lightspeed expires, so you don't actually heal for a single HP more than you would have without Lightspeed.
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  6. #76
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    Remilia_Nightfall's Avatar
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    Reimu Hakurei
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miiu View Post
    Please dont forget about the globalcooldown which is still pretty much active with the use of Lightspeed.
    I am fully aware of that. I was responding to whoever stated that "Lightspeed can now be used as emergency cd and nothing else."
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  7. #77
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    Mukku Merlotte
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Would the ewer buff work on a bard using foes/ballad? Toss an ewer on the bard for extra group refresh or extra foes
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  8. #78
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    Sidra Swiftwind
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    Sargatanas
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Over a relatively short duration, such as the duration of lightspeed, frontloading the heals actually has a noticeable impact in healing per second. The difference would decrease over longer durations, but that's not really relevant here since any discussion of emergencies is short duration in nature. This is a great change and makes Lightspeed a very good multipurpose skill (Emergencies, Mana Management, Mobile Healing).

    My only complaint, and I am not even sure complaint is the right word, is that it seems to favor Diurnal more since the only good thing Noct already had going for it was an instant cast 525 potency Heal/Shield - although Noct still gets the benefit from an AOE perspective and Mana benefits.
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  9. #79
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    YuiSasaki's Avatar
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    Yui Sasaki
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    Shiva
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by mp-please View Post
    *snip*
    And the best of all buffs, Ewer refresh rate. That 30 potency is so bad my passive mp regen doesn't beat it by 8 mp, i can't wait for astrologians to tell their tanks and dps "sorry had to sacrifice a bole/balance because i needed mp"
    Yeah, cuz Ewer and passive mp regen don't stack I forgot....

    Considering lightspeed, yes it might not be necessary to spam heal within 10seconds, yet it's an improvement, considering the way it worked before.

    And yet you need to invest mana AND a cd to apply regen to everyone in order the reach the same result.
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  10. #80
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    Lilli Karani
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
    Lightspeed is now very potent and the complaint spam threads should stop once people get in savage and see that astrologian is as strong as the other healers.
    The decicion will not be made by "Is the AST able tho heal that fights". I think we all are on par: it can.

    The decicion for progression will be made by "which healer combination will provide the most raid DPS".

    Sidenote: The more one healer can solo heal, the more the other healer can DPS. Don't forget Selene as a mini healer (not affected by cleric stance) and DPS buff totem.

    And forget the word "Emergencyskill". A serious healer use all skills and CDs as regular skills.
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