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    Amou Kiaran
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    I've been looking for an excuse to bring this back.

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    Yorumi Eienyuki
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    I'll preface by saying I don't want war nerfed. I think though the slashing debuff is a source of problems. It leads to the disparity in parses, but war is the only class that can apply it permanently and it synergizes with nin and all other tanks. Since you have to select 2 out of the 3 tanks, this slashing debuff, combine with nearly infinite tp means war is almost required in all 8 man parties. At a minimum slashing debuff is affect 2 members of the party, and just get better with each nin. I do think it would help if they allowed nin to permanently apply slashing debuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorumi View Post
    I do think it would help if they allowed nin to permanently apply slashing debuff.
    They already can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gooner_iBluAirJGR View Post
    They already can.
    Was this changed in 3.0 or something? I'll admit I havn't played my war as much in 3.0 but before that I never saw nin's applying it. Good that they can then, that helps a least.
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    Just a crazy thought. How about they leave WAR DPS be and improve on DRK/PLD's instead?

    I'll see myself out now... >_>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorumi View Post
    Was this changed in 3.0 or something? I'll admit I havn't played my war as much in 3.0 but before that I never saw nin's applying it. Good that they can then, that helps a least.
    NINs have always been able to have 100% uptime on the slashing debuff.
    If a NIN doesn't apply it, either they didn't know their priorities or they expected the WAR to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    Just a crazy thought. How about they leave WAR DPS be and improve on DRK/PLD's instead?
    Maybe you don't realize this, but that IS a crazy thought. Hint: PLD and DRK can benefit from slashing debuffs too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argyle_Darkheart View Post
    Maybe you don't realize this, but that IS a crazy thought. Hint: PLD and DRK can benefit from slashing debuffs too.
    A job can only do good DPS if another job is in the party? Let me ask and please excuse any ignorance I have, but what do PLD and DRK bring to help improve the WAR? Is WAR always required in a combination for progression DPS checks? This sounds completely balanced to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    A job can only do good DPS if another job is in the party? Let me ask and please excuse any ignorance I have, but what do PLD and DRK bring to help improve the WAR? Is WAR always required in a combination for progression DPS checks? This sounds completely balanced to me.
    Slashing debuff isn't unique to WAR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allyrion View Post
    NINs have always been able to have 100% uptime on the slashing debuff.
    If a NIN doesn't apply it, either they didn't know their priorities or they expected the WAR to do it.
    Is there a reason nin would expect a war to do it? I'm just kind of shocked that I've not seen them doing it, I always knew they had it but I've seriously not seen nin's keeping that applied.
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