Naoki Yoshida, Balance the game please [War DPS TOO HIGH!]

[Velhart]

Just a crazy thought. How about they leave WAR DPS be and improve on DRK/PLD's instead?

I'll see myself out now... >_>

[Argyle_Darkheart]

Just a crazy thought. How about they leave WAR DPS be and improve on DRK/PLD's instead?

Maybe you don't realize this, but that IS a crazy thought. Hint: PLD and DRK can benefit from slashing debuffs too.

[Velhart]

Maybe you don't realize this, but that IS a crazy thought. Hint: PLD and DRK can benefit from slashing debuffs too.

A job can only do good DPS if another job is in the party? Let me ask and please excuse any ignorance I have, but what do PLD and DRK bring to help improve the WAR? Is WAR always required in a combination for progression DPS checks? This sounds completely balanced to me.

[Argyle_Darkheart]

A job can only do good DPS if another job is in the party? Let me ask and please excuse any ignorance I have, but what do PLD and DRK bring to help improve the WAR? Is WAR always required in a combination for progression DPS checks? This sounds completely balanced to me.

Slashing debuff isn't unique to WAR.

[Mattiux]

Slashing debuff isn't unique to WAR.

Here is where the problem lays. The warrior is a self-sufficient class, wich provide to the party a strong 10% debuff to the damage suffered providing by himself for the slashing buff needed.

The Drk on the other hand have problem with a lot of party composition. If you have a DrK in the party instead of a Warrior you are going to face the following issue:
-Without a Ninja, the Tank couple Pld-Drk lose 10% of Dps

-Reprisal is proc based, not 100% uptime and only if you are tanking something with physical damage. So if a switch happen, or you are facing a magic attack you have lost the 10% of mitigation provided by a Warrior with ~100% uptime.

-If you have a MnK in the party, Delirium is totally useless.

-If your party have only 1 meele (witch is the most used static composition) the drk isn't compatible with MnK and Drg.

[Velhart]

Slashing debuff isn't unique to WAR.

You did not answer my question.

this is how the concept of off tanking works.supporting the main tank. whether its by taking enemies off of the main tank, buffing them up/debuffing enemies , or eating cleaves with them.

Is WAR officially declared an off tank? Or was that decided among the community?

[Lionheart401]

A job can only do good DPS if another job is in the party? Let me ask and please excuse any ignorance I have, but what do PLD and DRK bring to help improve the WAR? Is WAR always required in a combination for progression DPS checks? This sounds completely balanced to me.

this is how the concept of off tanking works.supporting the main tank. whether its by taking enemies off of the main tank, buffing them up/debuffing enemies , or eating cleaves with them.

[Gooner_iBluAirJGR]

A job can only do good DPS if another job is in the party?

I guess bard/mch benefiting from drg and smn/blm benefiting from bard aren't things anymore.

[Velhart]

I guess bard/mch benefiting from drg and smn/blm benefiting from bard aren't things anymore.

True, but this is a situation you can only pick two tanks as opposed to four DPS. So three tanks for two spots, as opposed to many DPS for four spots which can call for various combinations. So when there is only three for two spots, little is left to the imagination and one will ultimately be not wanted as opposed to the other two, unless DRK truly brought something to the table that warranted experimentation and viability between the three jobs. So more of what I am trying to say is all three should bring something to the party or not do it at all.