War MT?

[BlackenedTiamat]

This dude is either a bad troll, or an idiot.

[BlackenedTiamat]

I was referring to SirTaint about my previous comment.

[Gildarts]

^ and why is that? explain

[Aerya]

So... We have in this thread "LOL You need to use your DPS stance all the time or you're a noob tank, healing you is easy anyway".

And in the next thread, we have "Tanks playing in DPS stance are a pain in the a** to heal and should learn how to play"...

I wondered why we bother ourselves with tanks or healers roles, we should all play DPS, because with a huge DPS we can clear any content before dying...

[Reynhart]

5. it's 10% less str of the mob, not damage. an attack could have a base potency of 10k while the mob only has 50 str. your 10% less str won't matter at all in this case.

Except Attack Power is much more important than base potency in calculating damage.
It's because of that, that at level 1, you 100 potency skill does 15 vs 500 at 60

[Starkbeaumont]

Except Attack Power is much more important than base potency in calculating damage.
It's because of that, that at level 1, you 100 potency skill does 15 vs 500 at 60

it was just an example to show that 10% str down will never equal 10% damage done, cause there is multiple values to consider in the damage calculation. Also we have no clue what SE will do, they could even add high damage attacks which is neither physical nor magical. in this case both halone and delirium/DK debuff won't mean anything while storm's path still applies

[Reynhart]

it was just an example to show that 10% str down will never equal 10% damage done, cause there is multiple values to consider in the damage calculation.

He already said that 10% STR Down is less powerful than 10% damage reduction. (And correcting Kleys who said that RoH is a -5% STR)

5. Rage of Halone is a 10% reduction. WAR damage reduction is better, but DRK certainly isn't against physical damage.

[SirTaint]

This dude is either a bad troll, or an idiot.

Your contribution to the thread has completely changed my mind, thank you for the valuable insight and information.

[Kyros]

WAR can MT everything. In fact, WAR is the better Main Tank for a vast majority of content. It shinned as a MT in coils and from the looks of it Alex will be no exception.

The reason, however, that people Picked PLD as a MT in raids was not because it was a better MT, but because PLD was a horrible OT. Having a Good MT and a Great OT is better than having a Great MT and a Terrible OT. Anyone who think it was because PLD had more mitigation (Spoilers: It did not) needs to get slapped by a math book.

This is now more or less fixed in HW, with PLD's OT capabilities having been boosted. Sadly, our OT capabilities got boosted even more. So Right now, you can easily be the better MT or OT in most raids, but the same can't be said for the other 2 Tanks. DRK is more suited for MT whereas PLD can safely move in either spot now, but both will TP starve in minutes. And Both are also kinda clunky as far as Stance-dancing goes.

So yes, you can MT all you want and probably do a better job, but your co-tank will suffer unless he too is a WAR. In short, WAR is awesome. And we OT not because the others are better MT's, but because we are just better everywhere

[Giantbane]

It's not so much that WAR can't MT, they can very effectively. It's just that they're so good as an OT.