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    War MT?

    So I just came back to this game for heavensward, looking to MT as I have in every MMO. Currently leveling a warrior, but ive been doing some research and it seems as though my class gets pidgeonholed into the offtank role only? Im talking end game progression content, not pugs on duty finder, would I ever be MTing or should I just reroll to paladin now. Thanks for the advice.
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    If you wanna MT, I would say Pally. All tanks can MT but if you wanna be the best MT Paladin hands down. Warrior is a god of a OT and drk is a floater atm.
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    Warriors can MT all fights, however tradition is generally to start with a PLD MT to test the water in new content. It's not a hard rule and depends on the composition of whatever static you find yourself, most will like a PLD.

    If you're keen however you'll pop all 3 tanks to 60.
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    warriors as of now have an amazing advantage over other tanks, they do massive damage, and i mean MASSIVE. you can MT as warrior if using Holmgang, Vengeance , Raw Intuition, Equilibrium and inner beast etc, as cooldowns yea sure. But ideally WAR thus far has the perfect skills to Offtank and MT WHEN NEEDED . When not main tanking (not having adds or in a swap) You can do up to 850dps in a live instance (NOT A DUMMY) WHILE IN "Deliverance"...... with the right gear. A Paladin cannot come anywhere near that in an instance and have higherdefensive skills. You want to talk end game? With the Dark Knight issues they are not fit for the offtank or MT ROLE in a SAVAGE RAID. Keep your warrior unless you want the dull responsibility of the same thing over and over again.
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    WAR is the best MT in the game right now. Simple to play, plenty of mitigation. Good versus magic and physical attacks and have the highest DPS potential and highest burst potential.

    PLD is your utility tank with most of its abilities actually better for the OT role.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimaS View Post
    warriors as of now have an amazing advantage over other tanks, they do massive damage, and i mean MASSIVE. you can MT as warrior if using Holmgang, Vengeance , Raw Intuition, Equilibrium and inner beast etc, as cooldowns yea sure. But ideally WAR thus far has the perfect skills to Offtank and MT WHEN NEEDED . When not main tanking (not having adds or in a swap) You can do up to 850dps in a live instance (NOT A DUMMY) WHILE IN "Deliverance"...... with the right gear. A Paladin cannot come anywhere near that in an instance and have higherdefensive skills. You want to talk end game? With the Dark Knight issues they are not fit for the offtank or MT ROLE in a SAVAGE RAID. Keep your warrior unless you want the dull responsibility of the same thing over and over again.
    I love how you were wording that so well so not to ruffle anyone's feathers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirTaint View Post
    WAR is the best MT in the game right now. Simple to play, plenty of mitigation. Good versus magic and physical attacks and have the highest DPS potential and highest burst potential.

    PLD is your utility tank with most of its abilities actually better for the OT role.
    /facedesk... I just...can't...
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    Thanks for the quick replies, although it seems like im getting mixed responses. Not sure how I feel about the dps infatuation on tanks..like cool if your dps sucks you can pickup the slack but how does that help you survive "tank busters" as you call them in this game haha if I want to dps ill make a dps. I want to be the most reliable MT for tanking the hardest content in the game, but maybe endgame is different from the mmos ive played and im missing something
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    lol Utilities suited for OT roles...... ded.....
    PLD is the best option at MT purely based on it being the best at mitigation.

    Shoot me!

    WAR is the best OT option purely based off its ability to top 600ish DPS
    like you just added a 5th DPS option with a Tank still in the party
    it doesn't get better than this
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    PLDs tool kit is lacking for MT duties. Lowest MT DPS, shield/bulwark/sheltron all useless against SEs hardon for magic attacks. Sent/rampart are fine but nothing above the other 2 tanks. HG is the best def move in the game but just as effective as MT or OT. (tank swap HG whatever tank buster, swap back)

    Clemency is best cast on a MT not by a MT. DV is easily triggered from the OT slot and then actually useful since its applied to the MT. Royal can be spammed as an OT. Stoneskin can be cast without interruption by an OT PLD, one of the better progression spells from a tank.

    WAR has the highest MT damage. Can apply a 10% damage down, can mitigate tank busters physical and magical on demand. They generate more hate then a PLD.

    DRK is stuck in between with an edge to magic damage and very high OT damage but runs into major TP issues in either role.

    I'm a PLD junkie and have been a PLD MT for a progression raid for a long time now. But I'm not going to pretend PLD is best right now. It's well behind for A1,3,4 and useless in A2. PLD is also the worst tank for ravana EX with the lowest burst potential.


    WAR is also the best OT for DPS but it doesn't provide the OT utility of a PLD.
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    Last edited by SirTaint; 07-19-2015 at 06:17 AM.

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