War MT?

[ZhycranaDranix]

I don't baby sit my healers... I rock STR acc too with full bonus in STR, but I know heal intensive phases I.E Bismarck EX p2 , Jag Doll Spawn in AF2 , AF4 last phase...so in these phases I help them out.

When you're a tank or a player of any matter/role and you understand the concept of each role you kind of get a feel for what they go through.
I.E Im a 2.0 healer through and through so I understand that you'll have that DPS taking necessary damage , or that cleave that gets a melee during a tank swap. etc etc so its not babysitting its more of understanding each others roles and making it easier on the party as a whole ,rather than taking the high road and telling them hey if other healers can heal tanks with full STR in this situation you should be able to as well.

and especially for ''RANDOM TANKS''..

Now for statics these aren't random tanks and these aren't pugs etc so you can go about doing things you know , push the limits

But in DF / PUG you want to go the route for sure that'll help you get there. There are tanks who can come here and say ''yada yada I go through DF and use STR acc no problem etc etc''.... different healers, different servers, different situations...so just to kill it all , Yes in PUG situations I make it easier on healers and the party etc, by using Shield Oath more than often and also Rocking and extra VIT piece if need be.

[Hundred]

If you and your Healer know the damage phases its no problem To do full STR. But one doesn't really know damage phases until you step into content or read someone else's instructions.
Not everyone is going to parse or comb their battle log to see the intervals. If one isnt paying that kind of methodical attention, vit does give you more time to instinctively recognize the pattern.

Going vit doesn't really matter give. The encounters basically expect you to do vit Dps, so vit won't cause you to fail but it will make a run slower when optimally played.

[Yorumi]

Healer being the easiest job to play in FFXIV, I really don't get why random tanks are still babysitting their healers.

I strongly disagree with the notion of healer being the easiest job to play. Maybe try playing it and see. Not only does a healer have to deal with almost every mechanic in every fight, they have to do it while keeping everyone alive, And they're also the ones responsible for recovering from mistakes, like someone dying. If a dps misses a rotation it's rarely the end of the world other than maybe the absolute top end progression content. For a healer damage doesn't stop incoming on the party just because they need to dodge. This is especially laughable coming from a tank. I play both, bosses are set up so tanks rarely have to deal with more mechanics than aoe. Again this is somewhat different in the absolute top end but otherwise if you can manage to hit your hate rotation and pop cooldowns you're doing ok as a tank.

[SeraviEdalborez]

You act like "keeping everyone alive" is something special. It really isn't. It's akin to saying DPS doing damage or tanks holding hate are huge responsibilities. Ideally they are all just a given.

"Missing a rotation" also implies you're either choosing your words poorly or you don't know what DPS actually do either.

While damage in HW ramped up a little bit (rather, our scaling started over from Darklight tier so it "feels" hard again), you are blowing your own responsibilities way out of proportion. No job is more justified than any other right now.

Playing optimally is not just for the 1%.

[Yorumi]

You act like "keeping everyone alive" is something special. It really isn't. It's akin to saying DPS doing damage or tanks holding hate are huge responsibilities. Ideally they are all just a given.

I just replied to a person claiming healing is the easiest job in ff14 which is total ignorant BS. That person hasn't even played a damn healer. Far too many tanks are blaming healers for their own crappy tanking.

Yeah healing isn't rocket science but given the crappy way I've witnessed a lot of tanks play and then blame the healer. They couldn't handle half of what a healer has to do in a fight and they sit there arrogantly whining about healers. Seriously tanks need to play healers in high level content to see what we have to deal with even in "easy" dungeons.

I don't believe any role is more important, but if this forum is any indication tanks sure as hell think they're god's gift to ff14 and all the lesser people should feel blessed to be in their presence. Just look at the person I replied to initially, look at the utter contempt for healers in the post.

[Nabian]

Sooo much misinformation in this post....it's sad.

[Erim-Nelhah]

With the Dark Knight issues they are not fit for the offtank or MT ROLE in a SAVAGE RAID. Keep your warrior unless you want the dull responsibility of the same thing over and over again.

I'm going to say this: DRK isn't the best tank atm, but if Alex Savage won't be able to be completed at level with a DRK MT and/or OT (without overgearing the content), then Alex Savage is overtuned and will need a nerf.

I'm not saying you should take a DRK in your static if you or your healers aren't comfortable with doing so, or that DRK doesn't need some love, just that DRK isn't as bad as you're making it out to be.

--Erim Nelhah
(Master, Astral Descendants <AD>)
(60 DRK Main)

(Edited second paragraph for clarity)

[Fulgur]

Can a WAR main tank? Absolutely, so long as you remember you're a tank and not a dps.

[rawker]

Healer being the easiest job to play in FFXIV, I really don't get why random tanks are still babysitting their healers.

Stop it already.

[Zfz]

But why do you even tank Alexander in Shield oath? Except for MT role in A4 there is little reason to do so, even when pugging. :/

Got a parse for spike damage taken for each fight in Alexander? I'm really interested.