Alexander loot systems sucks :/

[KariArisu]

Yeah... that's it, I'm giving up on Alex. I've spent 8 hours over the last two days grinding Floor 1 with nothing to show for it. I'm going to stop wasting my time with this crap before it has me hating FF14 entirely.

I'm not sure what you expect. Doing the same 1-3 pieces of content for hours on end every couple months is the entire endgame.
Still, 8 hours sounds really unlikely.

[Kiteless]

Still, 8 hours sounds really unlikely.

You would think.

For the record, I have no issue with repeating content. Running key trials or raids a few times a week is completely reasonable. But I should have to dedicate several days to running a single floor with no results. There comes a point where it is simply too much.

[Ayer2015]

Form a party through PF that will run it 4-5 times so everyone gets their loot.... alternatively your FC/LS

[ckc22]

That still doesn't entitle you to get all the drops you need on the first run, even if the gear was only good for a day.

Way to ignore my point entirely. I can tell you're interested in actually having a discussion.

[IglooAustralia]

I just turned off auto renewal, Alexander has made me hate this game. GGSE.

[Valkrist]

The people complaining that they don't have time to be gearing up the best gear of the game currently with casual level difficulty content should have no right to be complaining about how fast they gear up given that they don't have time to be doing endgame in the first place. Nothing in the game requires higher gear than i180 gear right now. If they're not going to be doing Alexander Savage, then there's absolutely no need for i190 gear.

This system is VERY fair and easily yields drops to many people every day. The token system currently removes the entire fight over 13 jobs worth of gear down to 1 item for all jobs. Everyone wins with this. Running Coil every week to have gear floor and then never enter again for another week is unfair and downright miserable. This system has -everyone- able to upgrade if they put the time in. Yes, put the time in.

There's absolutely no reason to ever need a static for these fights. Join a PF group and run 4 runs. Don't get the drop you want after 4 runs with the same people, try again or start you own PF and lock the item.

If you still can't get your drops after a full week, give it up. Big deal if you couldn't get a piece this week. You're not permanently stuck behind like people are saying. Literally next week gear is coming out where you can buy it with absolutely no competition that has to be at least of the same level of Alexander NM gear.

Starting next week, the amount of players that will do endgame will start skipping NM entirely. Many are already done gearing up everything they need. Alexander NM is very quickly going to be not done at all for anyone that doesn't need it for story clear.

[hagare]

a universal token would be so much better. Right now each floor drops 2 from 3 types of token randomly.
So instead of not seeing your wanted gear when farming coil, you'll get to not see your wanted token when farming alex.
for example, you need a shaft? you farm all day and all you see is the other two tokens.
after a day of farming you finally get it. Well guess what, you still need to farm it for the other 3 shafts.

A universal token will remove that randomness.
Even making it so each floor drops every type of token they have removes that randomness.

this is what we have now:
1 Waist, Feet, Accessories
2 Head, Feet, Accessories
3 Head, Hands, Legs
4 Body, Hands, Legs

if they make it like this:
1 waist, acc
2 feet, acc
3 head, legs
4 body, hands

and they make each floor drop those specific tokens, they can simply adjust the number of tokens needed for each gear.

[Greven]

If it was fair they wouldn't be planning to change it and make the Savage Lootsystem just completely different. RNG isn't fair, it's just luck. Today in 5 run I dropped from every floor..

That said, Esoterics will come soon, Savage is already said to have a different loot system. Let this thread rest in peace.

[Zfz]

I'm starting to think that when Esoterics gear is out, then we can see the true value of the AlexN system: get a party together, PF or static, and run each floor 4 times to get everyone their tokens and call it a day. The only time AlexN gear matters is in preparation for AlexS---i.e. now. For everyone else it's actually more than enough to just do the 4 runs per floor and get whatever token you win for the week. Instead of grinding Turn X endlessly for that one piece that just refuse to drop, now you just farm the floors consistently and you are consistently progressing on all your other jobs.

Personally I like the AlexN better than the Coils system for gearing secondary classes. And once Esoterics is out, that is all that AlexN will be used for (besides glamour, true).

[Ashkendor]

If it was fair they wouldn't be planning to change it and make the Savage Lootsystem just completely different. RNG isn't fair, it's just luck. Today in 5 run I dropped from every floor..

That said, Esoterics will come soon, Savage is already said to have a different loot system. Let this thread rest in peace.

Savage is going to be a completely different ballgame though. 95% of the playerbase won't ever clear the entirety of it. Have you seen the clear percentages for T13? Or even T5? They're ridiculously low, and there's no reason to believe that the Savage version of Alexander is going to be any different. It's hardcore raid content aimed at a completely different audience than story mode, and therefore it has a different loot system. Both have likely been solid concepts for months now. To be quite honest, I still don't see what's so unfair about either one.