Alexander loot systems sucks :/

[Nadirah]

Yeah... that's it, I'm giving up on Alex. I've spent 8 hours over the last two days grinding Floor 1 with nothing to show for it. I'm going to stop wasting my time with this crap before it has me hating FF14 entirely.

I stopped running the floors more than once already.

I also stopped healing floor 4. I'll do shitty SMN dps before subjecting myself to that stress.

To the "just do PF" crowd... Most of us have tried that. Someone always leaves after getting their loot and you have to replace them with folks that will often do it too.

[Reynhart]

That's exactly my point. The current version of Alexander isn't even end game content...

Well, if your point is that Alex is not endgame content, why suggest that they keep a loot system catered for endgame content ?

[Rin_Kuroi]

I use PF to get my loot for alex. It's worked wonders. I don't see why the loot system has to be modified to make up for crappy PF groups. Might as well just bring back tokens with a weekly limit but for each floor. So long as I can get all my tokens for the week within about 3 hours of clearing I'm happy.

[ckc22]

Starting next week, the amount of players that will do endgame will start skipping NM entirely. Many are already done gearing up everything they need. Alexander NM is very quickly going to be not done at all for anyone that doesn't need it for story clear.

Some of us are obsessive about collecting gear sets...

[Peachy]

Just leaving my feedback here. I think alexander was poorly implemented, the loot rules are really bad and as others have pointed out the content is getting stale very fast, soon there will be less people running it so itll be even harder to get these junk tokens. Why isnt it one universal type of token instead of ones for each item? Please leave this loot system in the past and dont use it again for future content.

[Ashkendor]

It's a good idea to bookmark the "Forum Top" page and come in through that page each time, because the Community Rep responses are always listed to the right. Unless you're on mobile, then obviously it's different.

Or even better, check the Dev Tracker every now and then.

And here it is. The first listing of Rep response on the "Forum Top" page:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...85#post3147685

Yes. This thread. When the thread listing icon gets a crown, it means a community rep has responded.

Oh nice. Thanks for the link, would've never found it buried in the thread.

Thanks for the tip about the crown, too. ^^

[Aldora]

Just leaving my feedback here. I think alexander was poorly implemented, the loot rules are really bad and as others have pointed out the content is getting stale very fast, soon there will be less people running it so itll be even harder to get these junk tokens. Why isnt it one universal type of token instead of ones for each item? Please leave this loot system in the past and dont use it again for future content.

I agree, i would've rather seen 1 type of token drop then the 7 different type of tokens we need to farm right now.

• Head > x2 Tarnished Gordian Lens
• Body > x4 Tarnished Gordian Shaft
• Hands > x2 Tarnished Gordian Crank
• Waist > x1 Tarnished Gordian Chain
• Legs > x4 Tarnished Gordian Spring
• Feet > x2 Tarnished Gordian Pedal
• Accessories > 1x Tarnished Gordian Bolt

Considering that you would like to get all of the Gordian items, you would need to get a total of 19 drops in order to all of the Gordian items which are available at this time. So, in order to gear up 1 class, you will need to run at least 19 Floors where you get the drop you need with each individual run. Since you can only get 4 items per week, that would mean that it will take you at least 5 weeks in order to get 1 class geared up with the Gordian gear.

But, you are not the only person in the party and they want to get their item drops as well. The chance that you will get the item you need with the first run of a floor, is pretty slim. Also, if you are playing with a static or a farming group, you would have to run 1 specific floor at least 4 times before everyone gets their drop. So, even if everyone in your static will get the item they need during those 4 runs, you would still need to run 16 Alexander Floors every week.

That is... If you manage to get the item you need within those runs.

I believe that this route is better than having class specific gear drop from each Floor, where people still have to see the item drop that they need after running the same floor a hundred times over (yes, i'm exaggerating). The chance that the items you need will drop are significantly higher, but also the amount of people who can Need on it has increased as well.

From what i understood, the Alexander Savage Loot System sounds more like the type of system that we’re looking for:

[Alexander: Gordias (Savage) Loot Rules]

It will be possible to complete each area once per week, and in addition to obtaining equipment directly from treasure coffers, everyone will receive a token that can be used to exchange for gear.

In the event that players who already completed an area for the week are present, similar to Coil, the number of chests that appear will change based on the amount of these players; however, you will still be able to obtain the token item if you have yet to do so for the week.

Additionally, in regards to the normal mode of Alexander, we've been seeing feedback mentioning that the lotting battles are rough, so we may look into increasing the amount of rewards.

I just hope that will use 1 specific token which we can trade in for the Savage gear, rather than using the same 7 different types of tokens where we will get 1 of these 7 types of tokens at random after clearing a Floor for the first time that week. We might end up getting 4 Bolts, while we needed 3 Shafts in order to get the new Body Piece.

I mean… Next week, we’ll get access to Alexander Savage as well as access to the Esoteric Tomes. We should also hear more about the new Relics, the 24 man Raid as well how we can get the AF2 for our classes.

SE, i can understand that you do not want us to gear up every class within 2 weeks of the release, but please… Don’t make it too complicated/frustrating to gear up 1 class, let alone multiple.

[Elurra]

I think the system is fine. The change I would like to see is make all items available on every floor.

[Ondori]

I stopped running the floors more than once already.

I also stopped healing floor 4. I'll do shitty SMN dps before subjecting myself to that stress.

To the "just do PF" crowd... Most of us have tried that. Someone always leaves after getting their loot and you have to replace them with folks that will often do it too.

How is healing A4 stressful? I am on my SCH and our static whm usually goes astro for it just for the fun. If your healers are good and your tanks, you basically can skip every single mechanic and just brute force it. cept adds ofc.

[AireTamStorm]

Everyone is going to cry and moan about something. I will admit the drop system from the coils was pretty frustrating. I ran t10 15 times before i saw my earrings drop once. At least I can pick and choose what I wanna go for. If you take 10 seconds to think ahead, you can even develop a plan to get all the gear you need in a good an optimal amount of time! Amazing!

The only difference here is how stupidly boring these runs are. I know savage is coming up and will revamp things but my god, I was tired of every floor after 2 runs. It took a while to get that way with the coils. Perhaps it's because it's so race roll easy, maybe it's because I don't think the setting is as awesome as BCoB. That's a whole separate thread though. Just be thankful getting loot drops you need can be made 10x easier with a static or FC farm group that has an hour to spend on each floor.
/queue people crying about not having an hour in their busy retail/restaurant schedules etc.