Alexander loot systems sucks :/

[Brian_]

I don't know why people are comparing Alex's loot system to Coil's. They're not the same tier of content.

Anyways, it doesn't matter if you're doing it with a static or through DF/PF. In a static you will run it until everyone gets a token - so at least 16 runs. Through DF/PF, you have something like a 25% chance at winning so you'd need 16 runs on average to get 1 token per turn.

For a static or farm party, it's grindy but fair. For everything else, it's worse than the old system.

Token systems are meant to guarantee reward with incremental progression. The big problem with the old loot system is you could continually get nothing every clear. This current system is only a half-solution. You can still repeatedly get nothing every clear. The real solution is to guarantee tokens, make them generic and increase the amount needed per item. It's the same resulting number of runs but you eliminate RNG.

[Jeykama]

It's grindy as hell for a static, especially for body pieces. 4 tokens only obtainable from one boss at a not 100% drop chance for 8 people.

Really wish the shafts dropped from 2 bosses like the leg pieces.

[Borascythe]

I personally do not like the current loot system in Alexander. While it's definitely better than the old Coil system, it's just not what it could be. I've cleared the floors multiple times trying to get the items I need through DF. PF is a waste of time unless it's for progression/learning purposes since people will just leave once they get the items they need.

A token system like what's in the new ex primals would be ideal. However, that would require the loot lockout to be removed. There has to be a happy medium between the two systems. Perhaps keep the same system but you're guaranteed a drop so you don't have to run it 500x due to bad luck or you could trade in 10 tokens for that floor for a specific part for that week. So, for example, if you got 10 unlucky runs in A1, you could trade in those 10 tokens for an item specific to that floor. This would count towards your loot lockout, but at the very least you wouldn't have to feel like you were wasting your time.

[LionKing]

1/ By playing game, you are already WASTING your time.
2/ You don't need ilv 190 gears for any contents available now, even for Rav Ex.
3/You can solo queue yourself anytime, any moment.
4/There is no lock out, so you can farm as much as you want, even better, bringing people who has already looted will not affect the number of token it give out.
5/Grab 7 friends and go if you want to ascertain for your token. Again, this is MMORPG, meaning you are not playing by yourself.
5/Stop complain and enjoy the game.If you can't or too much stress for you, quit it because you are WASTING your time.

7/People will complain about everything, anything. I am sorry if it is not cattering for a small group of people out there. Please go play Off-line RPG.

Have a good night.

[lordparanoia]

I like this loot system. It's not perfect but I think it's better then the one we had before... it gives to everyone the possibility to have a piece of gear (or more) per week.

[Havenae]

It's whatever.. just gonna say this.

Anyone defending RNG is either Korean, or needs their head checked.

[Whocareswhatmynameis]

It's whatever.. just gonna say this.

Anyone defending RNG is either Korean, or needs their head checked.

Or they just don't care that much. Not everyone is obsessed over digital items. They just want to do the content and eventually get thier reward. I particularly find the token/ tomestone system incredibly boring. Because I know from the start i am going to have to run this particular dungeon 8 times to get a piece of gear. And only when I've run it 8 times will i get the gear. Hell if you calculate the amount of dungeons it will take to get the full set it's worse.

The Primal system isn't completely destroyed because they at least left the dungeon drops in there instead of making it exclusively totems, but now all the totems do is make the gear twice as easy to get, as your much more likely to get 2 weapons in 10 runs than before, making the content obsolete much faster and making party finder groups for ravana ex that much harder to set up. Especially in a few weeks from now when everyone is swimming in ravana weapons.

[Zhexos]

Greetings,

During the recent Letter from the Producer LIVE Part XXIII, Yoshida mentioned that he's aware of the difficulty of obtaining specific loot due to the lotting battles taking place and that we're considering making it easier to obtain loot from Alexander: Gordias. Although we cannot offer a concrete time as to when this will be done, we're continuing to look into this, so please hang in there a bit longer.

[Khalithar]

Greetings,

During the recent Letter from the Producer LIVE Part XXIII, Yoshida mentioned that he's aware of the difficulty of obtaining specific loot due to the lotting battles taking place and that we're considering making it easier to obtain loot from Alexander: Gordias. Although we cannot offer a concrete time as to when this will be done, we're continuing to look into this, so please hang in there a bit longer.

My immediate thought for a quick fix is this: Add an additional vendor that gives us the option to trade any combination of 2-3 parts (doesn't matter which ones you trade in) for any one part of our choice. The weekly limit of one drop per floor will prevent abuse, additionally, I'd say for each run where you don't get something, have it give a bonus to their roll of some kind.

[DracotheDragon]

Greetings,

During the recent Letter from the Producer LIVE Part XXIII, Yoshida mentioned that he's aware of the difficulty of obtaining specific loot due to the lotting battles taking place and that we're considering making it easier to obtain loot from Alexander: Gordias. Although we cannot offer a concrete time as to when this will be done, we're continuing to look into this, so please hang in there a bit longer.

super simple and super easy fix, have all the tokens drop from floors 2+ so floor 1 is the same as it is now, but floors 2 3 and 4 can drop all the remaining tokens, that way it still takes time to gear up a class fully, but with the weekly lockout it would prevent people farming like mad