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    Player
    Reynhart's Avatar
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klamor View Post
    The end game is "get a static" or else you're not doing endgame. Even if you're in a partial static that has to use the PF (we've all been there, or at least most of us) that's still better than the DF (which you can't use anyway if you're doing real end game). Basically, get over yourselves. Demanding a new loot system over the old one, and then immediately bashing it because of "you-problems" is asinine.
    For something like Coil, you're right, but, if you remember, Coil wasn't doable in Duty Finder when the lockout was there, so it was designed for static parties.

    Alexander is designed to be accessible for everyone, so you can't use the "get a static" answer over and over.
    As for other content with lockout and doable in Duty Finder right at the beginning, you had Crystal Tower...where you didn't have to roll against 7 other people, since loots are tied to jobs.
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    It's a good idea to bookmark the "Forum Top" page and come in through that page each time, because the Community Rep responses are always listed to the right. Unless you're on mobile, then obviously it's different.

    Or even better, check the Dev Tracker every now and then.

    And here it is. The first listing of Rep response on the "Forum Top" page:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...85#post3147685

    Yes. This thread. When the thread listing icon gets a crown, it means a community rep has responded.
    Oh nice. Thanks for the link, would've never found it buried in the thread.

    Thanks for the tip about the crown, too. ^^
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    Chris Von'greven
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    I don't have a link. I'm sorry. I can't even find the Q&A where they said they are planning to change Alex Normal loot anymore. But you are talking about it as well so you should know.. By the way it doesn't change the point that it seems they listened to US changing the loot system which as far as I know happened only for Ramuh Ex.
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    I'''''l I'''''l
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    To put it simple, do it like Ravana:


    Keep the weekly limit and the drops, but, add a drop we get 100%... A token we can exchange 10 of it for any of the Alex drops, or, even, if you don't want to mess the thousand tables made for getting your full gear in weeks... Crate four types of those tokens. "Token floor 1" exchangable for pedal-bolt, chain... "token floor 2" lens... bla bla.

    So basically, if you have AWFUL BAD LUCK...The maximum runs you'll have to do is 10 per turn. A maximum of 40.... Right now the maximum of runs you may have to do if bad luck could be actually a really HIGH number if bad luck... If you have awful luck perhaps you'll have to do like around 100 runs of all the turns.

    For Alexander drops, right now, you need either a lot of time, or luck, or static, no skill needed.

    PS: I'm in the blessed group of 'static guy'. But... I can understand those who are not in one because my time is very limited, if I wouldn't be in a static I wouldn't be able to get all of the drops, perhaps not even two of those.
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    OLD signature is OLD... Meh, too nostalgic to change anyways.


    Alexander Savage Floor 1 clear, server first: https://youtu.be/v2zuShHSb3o
    Adlo spam saves the day!. "How not to do digititis" My unique and last memory of my own made static in Zodiark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o-sAA8c_qc

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    Nadirah Serenity
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiteless View Post
    Yeah... that's it, I'm giving up on Alex. I've spent 8 hours over the last two days grinding Floor 1 with nothing to show for it. I'm going to stop wasting my time with this crap before it has me hating FF14 entirely.
    I stopped running the floors more than once already.

    I also stopped healing floor 4. I'll do shitty SMN dps before subjecting myself to that stress.

    To the "just do PF" crowd... Most of us have tried that. Someone always leaves after getting their loot and you have to replace them with folks that will often do it too.
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    Narm Tamaraith
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadirah View Post
    I stopped running the floors more than once already.

    I also stopped healing floor 4. I'll do shitty SMN dps before subjecting myself to that stress.

    To the "just do PF" crowd... Most of us have tried that. Someone always leaves after getting their loot and you have to replace them with folks that will often do it too.

    How is healing A4 stressful? I am on my SCH and our static whm usually goes astro for it just for the fun. If your healers are good and your tanks, you basically can skip every single mechanic and just brute force it. cept adds ofc.
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    Cheria Gainsborough
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Everyone is going to cry and moan about something. I will admit the drop system from the coils was pretty frustrating. I ran t10 15 times before i saw my earrings drop once. At least I can pick and choose what I wanna go for. If you take 10 seconds to think ahead, you can even develop a plan to get all the gear you need in a good an optimal amount of time! Amazing!

    The only difference here is how stupidly boring these runs are. I know savage is coming up and will revamp things but my god, I was tired of every floor after 2 runs. It took a while to get that way with the coils. Perhaps it's because it's so race roll easy, maybe it's because I don't think the setting is as awesome as BCoB. That's a whole separate thread though. Just be thankful getting loot drops you need can be made 10x easier with a static or FC farm group that has an hour to spend on each floor.
    /queue people crying about not having an hour in their busy retail/restaurant schedules etc.
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    Sapphic Meow
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    Odin
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AireTamStorm View Post
    The only difference here is how stupidly boring these runs are. I know savage is coming up and will revamp things but my god, I was tired of every floor after 2 runs. It took a while to get that way with the coils.
    For me its down to the story, I was routing to progress in coil to see the story unfold, and getting the next cutscene was the cake, loot was secondary on the first kill, not an incentiive.

    Alex stoory is, in comparison, lackluster. Goblins? Too hard to take them serious, IMO Goblin story would have been better as a Hildibrand questline. Alex story should be on par with Coil.
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    Tahlia Panipahr
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    Leviathan
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    Summoner Lv 100
    I use PF to get my loot for alex. It's worked wonders. I don't see why the loot system has to be modified to make up for crappy PF groups. Might as well just bring back tokens with a weekly limit but for each floor. So long as I can get all my tokens for the week within about 3 hours of clearing I'm happy.
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    Pichichi Pichi
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    Sargatanas
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    Miner Lv 55
    Just leaving my feedback here. I think alexander was poorly implemented, the loot rules are really bad and as others have pointed out the content is getting stale very fast, soon there will be less people running it so itll be even harder to get these junk tokens. Why isnt it one universal type of token instead of ones for each item? Please leave this loot system in the past and dont use it again for future content.
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