Estinien [SPOILER]

[Mhikail]

I have a strong feeling we aren't done with our elf friends yet.

Those being Ysayle, Haurchefant and Estinien

Estinien is now fused into Nidhogg and may or may not also have Lahabrea lodged in his face. It will be an...interesting future for sure.

Hi.

If they start bringing back people who are dead then this game sucks ass at storytelling. Hauchy literally took a spear thing into the stomach. He wasn't even that important of a character
and no one cared about him and even thought he could be a traitor after all this happened. He is dead, on a grave near Ishgard. Let the man rest in peace.
Ysayle got blasted plenty of times and fell into the skies. Please do not bring people who are 'dead' back. I love those 2 characters but it's better storytelling that way.
They ruined Nanamo's story, big time and I love her. Glad she's back, but oddly enough I'd be happier if she died, and Rauhbahn turned crazy or something. The whole Ul'dah story
was pretty terribly written in this patch. People become too sympathetic and never want a 'bad ending' like Edda...Do not give Edda a happy ending. More lil' shorts of her is alright but nothing more.
This game suffers from 'This really really sucks' and has done pretty well so far, despite the Ul'dah thing...I cried on Hauchy. ><

You take that back. Haurchefant was the most important character. To me.

He wasn't nothing up until 3.0 where his death was all of the sudden "OMG THIS BRO". Now people love him and want him back.

Stuff.

[Atlaworks]

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You take that back. Haurchefant was the most important character. To me.

[Catwho]

One of the stated goals of the NPCs is now to somehow rescue Estinien, so I'm gonna toss my pennies in that he survives somehow.

[Ayuhra]

Hi.

If they start bringing back people who are dead then this game sucks ass at storytelling. Hauchy literally took a spear thing into the stomach. He wasn't even that important of a character
and no one cared about him and even thought he could be a traitor after all this happened. He's my fave NPC.
Ysayle got blasted plenty of times and fell into the skies. Please do not bring people who are 'dead' back. I love those 2 characters but it's better storytelling that way.
They ruined Nanamo's story, big time and I love her. Glad she's back, but oddly enough I'd be happier if she died, and Rauhbahn turned crazy or something. The whole Ul'dah story
was pretty terribly written in this patch.

Bye.

I didn't say they weren't dead, I said we may not be done with them. Ysayle has the whole Chosen of Hydaelyn thing going on. Haurchefant is dead for sure but we don't know where his body is (It's NOT the memorial near Dragonhead) and he could come back via Ascian possession or by his big dumb family Primal-ing him back since we haven't seen Unicorn/Ixion/Monoceros/Shadhavar whatever yet. And it debuted alongside Bismarck and the Warring Triad in the original games. Either way he's dead and it's just some aberration in his place.

I mean.

His body is MIA and if you go back to the Fortemps household in Ishgard after the MSQ there is NOBODY there from his family, just two servants, Tataru and Alphinaud. Where...where is the family? They're just at a funeral in mourning right? They're not collecting crystals or something? I mean those brothers were idiots and the father was pretty broken up.... Game.... Hey, hey, game, come back...

I hope they leave those two be, though, since the sudden "aliveness" of Nanamo kinda annoyed me. I know SE is aware of the popularity of the characters so hopefully, if they want to bring them back into the story it will just be some quest that involves the memory of them/finding something of theirs (which, by the way, I would also classify as "not done with"), rather than them coming back .

...For those of you who just read all that you are probably thinking it is the dumbest idea ever. I agree. You may also be horrified that it's true. As I was when it occurred to me.

[Furiea]

don't bring the dead people back.

pretty sure Estinien's mind/personality is already gone. He prob will end up like the first Azure Dragoon. dead but body preserved. Nanamo's story was BS. Scions died for nothing and not to mention they just let the freaking tarutaru go after he literally killed the entire Scions.

[justinjarjar]

Thx EdwinLi
Dragoon spoiler

In Dragoon you get your apprentice who gets dragoon blood off the bat. Then all we do is track her down and gain skills for tracking her down cuz why not I guess. It stated off so promising then turned into chase someone that at this point is bad at being a dragoon. I wanted more epic dragon bttles like the lvl 52 one all we got was le sigh hertics.

Compared to monk where we have a clear story onto why we get our class skills. (I like monk post 50 story a lot more then pre 50) Not sure about other classes but dragoon felt pointless fast.

[Atlaworks]

cannot figure out the spoiler box, but trust me dragoon story post 50 does not explain why we get new skills well let alone have an engaging story compared to pre 50.

Compared to monk where we have a clear story onto why we get our class skills. (I like monk post 50 story a lot more then pre 50) Not sure about other classes but dragoon felt pointless fast.

I'm pretty sure that the Monk 50 story is about how Widargelt chilled the kupo out and started mackin' on mi'qote chicks and that pretty much fixed the Fist of Rhalgr entirely

[Evangela]

I hope he'll die. I don't like him that much. he's a weakling that want the spotlights all the time.

after doing next to nothing in the first fight with Nidhogg (just holding an eyeball and cast a barrier once) he shown off his dragoon move and kill Nidhogg as if he's the protagonist of the game. without the warrior of light and friends, he would've his ass kicked in 5 seconds.

and what is that bloody armor? try to look cool? I don't think he's cool at all for not cleaning the blood off his armor in later scenes. what a goofball. he just like all the dragoons in FF series, worry too much about his look more than anything and try too hard to look badass.

[justinjarjar]

I'm pretty sure that the Monk 50 story is about how Widargelt chilled the kupo out and started mackin' on mi'qote chicks and that pretty much fixed the Fist of Rhalgr entirely

and i liked it :P I mean pre is just being a SCHs bitch.

[EdwinLi]

cannot figure out the spoiler box, but trust me dragoon story post 50 does not explain why we get new skills well let alone have an engaging story compared to pre 50.

Compared to monk where we have a clear story onto why we get our class skills. (I like monk post 50 story a lot more then pre 50) Not sure about other classes but dragoon felt pointless fast.

there is a button in Advance that us "[HB]" "[HB]" as the hiding box.

back on topic.

Well the other Jobs do explain how we get our Job skills such as DRK being trained by Sig since we are learning skills he developed himself and Ninja Jobs shows us getting our Job skills through the experience of the Job quest events.

I'm pretty sure that the Monk 50 story is about how Widargelt chilled the kupo out and started mackin' on mi'qote chicks and that pretty much fixed the Fist of Rhalgr entirely

Ya a bit sum up what happened but it does show how he still has a bit way to go before he can truely be a Master of the Fist of Rhalgr. Can't really blame him since he was the only member of his order to surivie the invasion and he was still a apprentice himself.