A Simple Solution to the Change to Bard

[MrSmiley]

Just give Archer a second job that would act as the mobile DPS Bard once was, like Ranger, Sniper, or Hunter. That way, Bard can focus on being more grounded and using their songs for utility and the new job can focus more on DPS and mobility.

just so were clear, if you want dps AND mobility, then you cant have similar dps to a black mage. That's the entire issue here, having both would be unbalanced.

[Dragoon4life]

Bards aren't getting any where near the DPS BLM are not even close

[Brundlefly]

I've done A1 and A3 with 3 bards (1 of them being myself). Bards are pretty much fine now. I wish they wouldn't have nerfed Sidewinder, but oh well, the extra DoT damage from WM makes up for that and more.

I think they are close to where Bard needs to be, they could probably tweak it slightly to boost its DPS just a bit, but people who are complaining about having 2+ bards in a group and not being able to clear it are just clueless.

[m3eansean]

I think they are close to where Bard needs to be, they could probably tweak it slightly to boost its DPS just a bit, but people who are complaining about having 2+ bards in a group and not being able to clear it are just clueless.

TBH there are many that flat out refuse to use WM and others that don't know how to use it effectively it would seem. I've been in groups like Bis EX where we had 2 bards and they couldn't cut the dps check. Verified by using a "pen and paper" that they were significantly behind the others.

[Taban]

I've done A1 and A3 with 3 bards (1 of them being myself). Bards are pretty much fine now. I wish they wouldn't have nerfed Sidewinder, but oh well, the extra DoT damage from WM makes up for that and more.

I think they are close to where Bard needs to be, they could probably tweak it slightly to boost its DPS just a bit, but people who are complaining about having 2+ bards in a group and not being able to clear it are just clueless.

A1 and A3 can be cleared with 3 decent dps and one on the floor so that doesn't really mean much =p

No one is going to bring 2 brd/mch to alex savage, it will just be a drain on the team, and brd/mch will always be in that situation as long as SE continues to balance them below other dps.

[Catwho]

Bards aren't getting any where near the DPS BLM are not even close

A good bard with a black mage will never out DPS the black mage because they're going to be giving them Foe's Requiem. Apples to apples it is the worst comparison to make.