in the future of ffxiv, please no more HNM

[Chocobits]

well hnm could ruin this game because, hnm always can be monopolized by 1 ls with bot army like ffxi years ago
hnm could be inside raid instance dungeon it could work good

So wait... let's say they add a bajillion HNMs and they're all heavily monopolized by RMT and botshells.

Now, let's say they remove every HNM from the game.

Does it make any difference at all to you at the end of the day? Either way they're mobs you won't be fighting, so it's not likely to ruin anyone's gameplay experience. If the botters have superior claiming programs, most people will give up on HNM as they did in FFXI.

To me, the point of HNMs (in FFXI) WAS the exhilaration of spamming during the spawn window, and if you got the claim, hurriedly positioning everyone and setting up shop for the fight. Since there was a huge waiting list for items and most shells used a favoritism lotting system versus a point based one, I knew when I first started endgame that I wouldn't have a snowball's chance in heck of getting any worthwhile gear. That doesn't mean I personally didn't enjoy camping them - until botters destroyed all hope of fair competition.

So yeah, I don't like the idea of people dismissing content that I enjoyed because of the possibility of it being monopolized.

Even if SE did manage to thwart botting, it would probably be the more well-organized shells repeatedly getting the claim. So as long as there really is fair competition for claiming (and a claiming system that doesn't utterly fail like the imminent changes underway), I would love to see HNM that people compete for in FFXIV. I loved the competition in FFXI.

Your opinions are noted. And forgettable.

[odette]

So wait... let's say they add a bajillion HNMs and they're all heavily monopolized by RMT and botshells.

Now, let's say they remove every HNM from the game.

Does it make any difference at all to you at the end of the day? Either way they're mobs you won't be fighting, so it's not likely to ruin anyone's gameplay experience. If the botters have superior claiming programs, most people will give up on HNM as they did in FFXI.

To me, the point of HNMs (in FFXI) WAS the exhilaration of spamming during the spawn window, and if you got the claim, hurriedly positioning everyone and setting up shop for the fight. Since there was a huge waiting list for items and most shells used a favoritism lotting system versus a point based one, I knew when I first started endgame that I wouldn't have a snowball's chance in heck of getting any worthwhile gear. That doesn't mean I personally didn't enjoy camping them - until botters destroyed all hope of fair competition.

So yeah, I don't like the idea of people dismissing content that I enjoyed because of the possibility of it being monopolized.

Even if SE did manage to thwart botting, it would probably be the more well-organized shells repeatedly getting the claim. So as long as there really is fair competition for claiming (and a claiming system that doesn't utterly fail like the imminent changes underway), I would love to see HNM that people compete for in FFXIV. I loved the competition in FFXI.

Your opinions are noted. And forgettable.

what competition????? wait for hours for claim and tank spank strategy???
wow!!!
for me competition are defeat really dificult boss with limit time and what "ls" are the first in your server
FFXI players will destroy this game
Your opinions are noted. And forgettable.

[Okiura]

FFXI players will destroy this game
Your opinions are noted. And forgettable.

think this just confirms any point you make is narrow minded and invalid.

I guess as a FFXI player i should say that WoW/EQ/GW/Eve players will distroy this game. but that makes no sense to say something as narrow minded as that. ideas from all those games and FFXI can be used to improve FFXIV, it's a good thing that lots of ppl have come from other MMO's to play FFXIV and they are feedding back their like and diskliles about it. hopfully in the end we'll end with a game with lots of the good things of other MMO's and very few of the bad.

[Zanfire]

what competition????? wait for hours for claim and tank spank strategy???
wow!!!
for me competition are defeat really dificult boss with limit time and what "ls" are the first in your server
FFXI players will destroy this game
Your opinions are noted. And forgettable.

wait...you do realize that most of this game is being played by FFXI players right....yah...sucks dont it? =)

now where is that ignorant troll button....