Alexander loot systems sucks :/

[Arkista]

New loot system is garbage! Should have been, Two chest pop after defeating a boss with two pieces of whole gear. Then if you don't receive gear you get a consolation prize A TOKEN!, then you get like 4-8 tokens to redeem for a piece of gear.

This new token system does indeed suck. It rewards statics more than people who use DF/PF. Also I just beat F1 in DF, It ain't so bad. Cause you know the people in PF, once they get theirs, they're going to leave.

So this all boils down to you not wanting to put in the work to form a group and also refusing to give the new system a chance. You are complaining within hours of the new raid being released lol... Why do people just look for excuses to cry about everything? This is a video game. If you don't like it, you're doing it wrong.

Hmmm. I can tell from your "Join Date mar 2015" you have no idea what you're talking about. If you were around for T1-T5 when it first came out, you would know how the OP feels.

All Yoshida had to do was keep the same loot system, which I think a lot of people thought was staying, and add some tokens if you didn't get anything. As I said this new system is garbage.

[Cirgellon]

New loot system is garbage! Should have been, Two chest pop after defeating a boss with two pieces of whole gear. Then if you don't receive gear you get a consolation prize A TOKEN!, then you get like 4-8 tokens to redeem for a piece of gear.

This new token system does indeed suck. It rewards statics more than people who use DF/PF. Also I just beat F1 in DF, It ain't so bad. Cause you know the people in PF, once they get theirs, they're going to leave.

They aren't going to make it so you only have to run it 10 times to be fully geared. Some of you have some really strange expectations. Can I just ask what mmos you are playing outside of FFXIV?

[Arkista]

They aren't going to make it so you only have to run it 10 times to be fully geared. Some of you have some really strange expectations. Can I just ask what mmos you are playing outside of FFXIV?

Did I say do only 10 runs and you're maxed ilvl190? Nope didn't think so. I said 4-8 tokens per piece of gear. That's 44-88 runs, not 10..... And my MMO history is FFXI for 10 years, where they did stuff right 90% of the time, unlike XIV where they get it right 40% of the time.

[Cirgellon]

Did I say do only 10 runs and you're maxed ilvl190? Nope didn't think so. I said 4-8 tokens per piece of gear. That's 44-88 runs, not 10..... And my MMO history is FFXI for 10 years, where they did stuff right 90% of the time, unlike XIV where they get it right 40% of the time.

You didn't just say 4 tokens per piece...

So you play a video game that you think is bad 60% of the time? lol... That must be some life.

[Arkista]

You didn't just say 4 tokens per piece...

So you play a video game that you think is bad 60% of the time? lol... That must be some life.

First, the 40% that they did get right, is what keeps me playing this game. Second what are you on about? "You didn't just say 4 tokens per piece..." I said

Then if you don't receive gear, you get a consolation prize A TOKEN!, then you get like 4-8 tokens to redeem for a piece of gear.

4-8 tokens for a piece of gear? Accessories like 4 tokens, head/hands/feet like 6 tokens, chest/legs like 8 tokens. It should have been we get gear or a token and locked out from loot, but still able to participate. Not hard to get, that's 4 tokens a week or 4 pieces of gear (if you got time and luck).

Like the OP pretty much said, If you got a static you're solid and shouldn't have anything to worry about. But those of us who don't have time for statics are left to use DF/PF. The new loot system sucks plain and simple.

[Cirgellon]

First, the 40% that they did get right, is what keeps me playing this game. Second what are you on about? "You didn't just say 4 tokens per piece..." I said




4-8 tokens for a piece of gear? Accessories like 4 tokens, head/hands/feet like 6 tokens, chest/legs like 8 tokens. It should have been we get gear or a token and locked out from loot, but still able to participate. Not hard to get, that's 4 tokens a week or 4 pieces of gear (if you got time and luck).

Like the OP pretty much said, If you got a static you're solid and shouldn't have anything to worry about. But those of us who don't have time for statics are left to use DF/PF. The new loot system sucks plain and simple.

You want gear drops along side those tokens. You do the math from there...

This loot system is a huge improvement. You haven't even given it a chance. That's why all of these cpmplaints are so silly. "I don'tlike it because of this made up theory that I have!"...

[Arkista]

You want gear drops along side those tokens. You do the math from there...

This loot system is a huge improvement. You haven't even given it a chance. That's why all of these cpmplaints are so silly. "I don'tlike it because of this made up theory that I have!"...

Did you not read what I said? You quoted what I said, and its there plain as day, I said

" It should have been we get gear or a token and locked out from loot, but still able to participate"... What is so hard to get? Again this goes back to the first raid, which I said looks like you weren't around for those considering your join date.

Let me be clear on how this new raid system should have been, and what many of us thought it was going to be. You finish a floor two pieces of gear drop, if you don't win the lot then you receive a Token, (or you can choose not accept the token and keep doing that floor for gear)you are then locked out from casting lots on that floor for the rest of the week, even if you receive a token. If you didn't get gear and instead got a Token, you can then collect however many tokens to redeem a single piece of gear. I don't know if I could explain it any more clearly than that.

So yes there should be Gear drops along side tokens, you can't obtain both from one floor its one or the other, then you're locked out. I don't understand why that is so hard for people to get, you sure, cause you weren't around.

T1-T5 people would go months without a drop they needed, we would got weeks without seeing a tank or healer piece, we would go weeks seeing the same damn DRG piece, I went three months without a drop for my MNK. Do you know what a lot of people wanted? A token system to go along with the raid loot system. And a lot of us thought that's what we were getting.

It's not hard to do gear and tokens, if you don't get gear you have tokens to fall back on, sure it might take longer with tokens, but for some of us that's ok. I did try the loot system as well, and I don't like it. And others feel that way as well. And that's those of us who are already i170+, there are still a lot of the player base that won't get to raid for quite some time.

[Ashkendor]

New loot system is garbage! Should have been, Two chest pop after defeating a boss with two pieces of whole gear. Then if you don't receive gear you get a consolation prize A TOKEN!, then you get like 4-8 tokens to redeem for a piece of gear.

This new token system does indeed suck. It rewards statics more than people who use DF/PF. Also I just beat F1 in DF, It ain't so bad. Cause you know the people in PF, once they get theirs, they're going to leave.

If you run it in DF, you 100% know the drop is going to go to a random person you'll never see again, and you start over with all 8 of you fighting over the one drop the next time you queue. If you go into a PF party, you at least have a chance that some people will stick around and make it easier for you to get your token for the week. There's a chance you'll get lucky and find a party willing to stick together till everyone has one. *shrug* If it's easy enough to be beaten in DF within hours of implementation, clears shouldn't be an issue for the vast majority of people. They basically just put you on a loot treadmill instead of handing you a loot piñata.