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  1. #41
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    BreathlessTao's Avatar
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    Shuu Naranol
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    I suppose it is a lot better........for statics.

    For us commoners though? ... I dunno. I feel like it's just like glamours: hey awesome, you can make your gear appear something else...except you need an item for it based on crafter...oh and on item level too. Because why not. Same with this loot system too, it's like - well, you can get anything, except you can't get anything, because there still are 7 different tokens for the different types of gear. Granted, significantly better chances than having a bazillion different sets for each job, but...yeah, not a "free-for-all" thing. And if it's true that chest/leg tokens only drop from level 4 - you'll still be farming that for four weeks if you want your item.

    It's really a mixed bag.
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    Cirgellon Dailemont
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    So this all boils down to you not wanting to put in the work to form a group and also refusing to give the new system a chance. You are complaining within hours of the new raid being released lol... Why do people just look for excuses to cry about everything? This is a video game. If you don't like it, you're doing it wrong.
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    New loot system is garbage! Should have been, Two chest pop after defeating a boss with two pieces of whole gear. Then if you don't receive gear you get a consolation prize A TOKEN!, then you get like 4-8 tokens to redeem for a piece of gear.

    This new token system does indeed suck. It rewards statics more than people who use DF/PF. Also I just beat F1 in DF, It ain't so bad. Cause you know the people in PF, once they get theirs, they're going to leave.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cirgellon View Post
    So this all boils down to you not wanting to put in the work to form a group and also refusing to give the new system a chance. You are complaining within hours of the new raid being released lol... Why do people just look for excuses to cry about everything? This is a video game. If you don't like it, you're doing it wrong.
    Hmmm. I can tell from your "Join Date mar 2015" you have no idea what you're talking about. If you were around for T1-T5 when it first came out, you would know how the OP feels.

    All Yoshida had to do was keep the same loot system, which I think a lot of people thought was staying, and add some tokens if you didn't get anything. As I said this new system is garbage.
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    Last edited by Arkista; 07-08-2015 at 12:38 AM.

  4. #44
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    Cirgellon Dailemont
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    New loot system is garbage! Should have been, Two chest pop after defeating a boss with two pieces of whole gear. Then if you don't receive gear you get a consolation prize A TOKEN!, then you get like 4-8 tokens to redeem for a piece of gear.

    This new token system does indeed suck. It rewards statics more than people who use DF/PF. Also I just beat F1 in DF, It ain't so bad. Cause you know the people in PF, once they get theirs, they're going to leave.
    They aren't going to make it so you only have to run it 10 times to be fully geared. Some of you have some really strange expectations. Can I just ask what mmos you are playing outside of FFXIV?
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  5. #45
    Player Zaft's Avatar
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    Leo Strut
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreathlessTao View Post
    I suppose it is a lot better........for statics.

    For us commoners though? ... I dunno. I feel like it's just like glamours: hey awesome, you can make your gear appear something else...except you need an item for it based on crafter...oh and on item level too. Because why not. Same with this loot system too, it's like - well, you can get anything, except you can't get anything, because there still are 7 different tokens for the different types of gear. Granted, significantly better chances than having a bazillion different sets for each job, but...yeah, not a "free-for-all" thing. And if it's true that chest/leg tokens only drop from level 4 - you'll still be farming that for four weeks if you want your item.

    It's really a mixed bag.
    What did you really expect? Even WoW uses slot-specific tokens. Otherwise everyone could (and would) upgrade their body and legs immediately for the largest gains.
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  6. #46
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    The new system is way better than WoD had.
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  7. #47
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    Nonni Brilante
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    Paladin Lv 60
    So basically instead of slowly earning currency (tomestone gear) or a potential at instant gratification (actual loot drop), what they've done as far as the Alexander loot system goes is a potential at slowly earning currency.....

    Ain't nobody got time fo' dat!!
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  8. #48
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    New loot system is garbage! Should have been, Two chest pop after defeating a boss with two pieces of whole gear. Then if you don't receive gear you get a consolation prize A TOKEN!, then you get like 4-8 tokens to redeem for a piece of gear.

    This new token system does indeed suck. It rewards statics more than people who use DF/PF. Also I just beat F1 in DF, It ain't so bad. Cause you know the people in PF, once they get theirs, they're going to leave.
    If you run it in DF, you 100% know the drop is going to go to a random person you'll never see again, and you start over with all 8 of you fighting over the one drop the next time you queue. If you go into a PF party, you at least have a chance that some people will stick around and make it easier for you to get your token for the week. There's a chance you'll get lucky and find a party willing to stick together till everyone has one. *shrug* If it's easy enough to be beaten in DF within hours of implementation, clears shouldn't be an issue for the vast majority of people. They basically just put you on a loot treadmill instead of handing you a loot piñata.
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  9. 07-08-2015 12:41 AM

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    Haku Jay
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    Shiva
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    Just run 4 times with your static / raid and everyone has a token.

    I like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cirgellon View Post
    They aren't going to make it so you only have to run it 10 times to be fully geared. Some of you have some really strange expectations. Can I just ask what mmos you are playing outside of FFXIV?
    Did I say do only 10 runs and you're maxed ilvl190? Nope didn't think so. I said 4-8 tokens per piece of gear. That's 44-88 runs, not 10..... And my MMO history is FFXI for 10 years, where they did stuff right 90% of the time, unlike XIV where they get it right 40% of the time.
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