All this BLM negativity. ...

[HaroldSaxon]

The reason some BLMs think they suck is because they do, not the job. Expert roulette rotation I saw the other day:

Fire 3 > Flare > Transpose > Blizzard 3 > Blizzard 3 (again for some reason) > wait > wait > wait > wait > Fire 3...

Leveling as BLM dungeons went noticeably faster at minimum level for the dungeon vs WAR in party without BLM or SMN, 20-30 minutes vs 25-40 minutes.

Thaumaturge Lv 59

[StouterTaru]

Thaumaturge Lv 59

Marauder Lv 60

[Leonus]

Thaumaturge Lv 59

I hate when people do this, trying to call out someone else by posting their level.

Get over yourself. Shows less credibility even if you have the job to 60 because of your attitude to me. Better ways of stating things than this.

[Jeckyl_Tesla]

Thaumaturge Lv 59

You're telling me someone has to be 60 to realize that some people will always be bad?

BLMs are fine.

[HaroldSaxon]

I hate when people do this, trying to call out someone else by posting their level.

Get over yourself. Shows less credibility even if you have the job to 60 because of your attitude to me. Better ways of stating things than this.

You do realize that BLM's rotation completely changes at 60? Personally, having the attitude of ignoring facts and evidence just to block legitimate complaints is a far-worse attitude.

You're telling me someone has to be 60 to realize that some people will always be bad?

BLMs are fine.

There are a number of QoL changes that need to be implemented. BLM's unfortunately, aren't "fine". These have been proven, and are similar to QoL buffs that other classes have had previously, as well as a number of other bugs.

[Jeckyl_Tesla]

You do realize that BLM's rotation completely changes at 60?



There are a number of QoL changes that need to be implemented. BLM's unfortunately, aren't "fine".

Few QoL changes are one thing, just outright buffing a class that does not NEED buffing is something different.

My BLM friend in my static pulls insane DPS, along with the rest of the DPS. Problem is, the average player in FFXIV are bad.

[HaroldSaxon]

Few QoL changes are one thing, just outright buffing a class that does not NEED buffing is something different.

My BLM friend in my static pulls insane DPS, along with the rest of the DPS. Problem is, the average player in FFXIV are bad.

And this isn't based on the average FFXIV player. What you consider "insane" DPS isn't actually insane. There isn't a reason to bring a BLM over any of the Melee classes or SMN.

[Jeckyl_Tesla]

And this isn't based on the average FFXIV player. What you consider "insane" DPS isn't actually insane. There isn't a reason to bring a BLM over any of the Melee classes or SMN.

It's pretty much based on an average player.

Let me spell it out for you. My BLM static partner pulls perfectly fine DPS, because he knows how to play. He's an exceptionally good BLM. He does fine. Says it's fine.

Now someone else comes along, claims that BLMs need a buff because they're not fine.

Knowing full well that the average player doesn't know how to play their class, who's opinion do I take? The better player who has a better idea of what he's doing.

[HaroldSaxon]

It's pretty much based on an average player.

Let me spell it out for you. My BLM static partner pulls perfectly fine DPS, because he knows how to play. He's an exceptionally good BLM. He does fine. Says it's fine.

Now someone else comes along, claims that BLMs need a buff because they're not fine.

Knowing full well that the average player doesn't know how to play their class, who's opinion do I take? The better player who has a better idea of what he's doing.

If you say so. All I say is try the class out for yourself and compare with the well known bug lists. A number of the top end BLM players have the same concerns about the class. Right now in an end game progression sense, if you need a caster, go SMN. If you can go 3x Melee, take a third Melee.

When the non-easy mode content gets implemented, you'll see that

[StouterTaru]

You do realize that BLM's rotation completely changes at 60? Personally, having the attitude of ignoring facts and evidence just to block legitimate complaints is a far-worse attitude.

Except it doesn't change completely. The ST rotation gets a damage boost of around 15% in turret mode, still not making it worth using over the old AoE rotation on a pack of dungeon trash.

In the end BLM is still where it was in 2.x; powerful AoE, destroyer of adds, decent ST damage when you know the fight, and even more unforgiving when you do't.