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  1. #651
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    Dervy's Avatar
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    Ragnarok
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    Lancer Lv 80
    So I've just gone and tested it. Unfortunately, both LS + BFB will end up sharing the same cooldown with a 2.40 GCD =/

    But... It looks like both BFB + LS could be double weaved with minimal GCD clipping... I think it clips for around 0.05s with my 84ms (WTFast + leatrix latency fix)

    Could you try record yourself Thendiel and double check?
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  2. #652
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    seekified's Avatar
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    Karis Angara
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    Cerberus
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Hmm, I've mostly been holding FT for .5 seconds until LS came back up the second time. Not going to do that anymore, then. Another interesting point I think is that a fully buffed Jump should be our highest-potency skill. How does BotD stack with Power Surge? Depending on the method it'll end up at 360 or 390 potency (additive vs multiplicative), which then combined with our usual stuff and Life Surge should make for very high crit damage. Would this be worth doing?

    EDIT: Forgot that FT is now 360 as well, of course. Still, food for thought. I'll do the math myself later if I find time. Jump's 200 potency x 1.15 x 1.10 x 1.3 x 1.3 x 1.5 plus crit lands it at 962 potency, a tad higher than FT's 888, but I have no idea if this is how the game applies all the buffs. Still, a Life Surged Jump in the opener might not be so bad.
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    Last edited by seekified; 07-06-2015 at 06:12 PM.

  3. #653
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    F'mibhas Hena
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    Odin
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Dervy said a few posts ago that everything is multiplicative, so I'll roll with that

    You can't Life Surge Jump, because LS was nerfed to only affect Weaponskills (GCDs).
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  4. #654
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    Mystogan Faust
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    does anyone know for sure whats the potency for jump when buffed with BOTD and PS ?

    is it 360 or 390 ?
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  5. #655
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    Karis Angara
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    Cerberus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mibhas View Post
    Dervy said a few posts ago that everything is multiplicative, so I'll roll with that

    You can't Life Surge Jump, because LS was nerfed to only affect Weaponskills (GCDs).
    Bahh. All my hopes and dreams ruined. XD

    @itti18 - It should be 390.
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  6. #656
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    Estelle9lives's Avatar
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    Estellise Ciel
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 90
    I have a question about our friend Ravy Ex: when he is in scorpion stance, does he take increased dot damage, or it just affects the initial hit? I've using CT but been skipping on Ph during certain Liberations in order to land an extra FT or 4th consistently,but I'm not sure. All in all sooo many little things you need to do to get decent numbers on Ravana. First time I've realistically used Piercing Talon to cheese numbers in a fight.

    Also, how much on average is a good 3min parse for current i180 max gear? I'm trying to figure a way to optimize cooldown usage so I've been cheaping out on pots and food on my parses.
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  7. #657
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    Sennema's Avatar
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    Sydney Lahkol
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    Jenova
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialKK View Post

    What I did was go to Character Customization->Hotbar->Crossbar. I enable Crossbar 3 (Enable customization for when weapon is drawn) and dumped LS, FC, WT, and GK in there putting them on the face buttons of BOTH sides of Set 3 (I also had LB and KF in there on the dpad, but those were just left over from my previous modification. Those can be ignored of course, or you can put whatever on there). Once you've dumped the skills you want into Set 3, you can disable Crossbar 3 (so it doesn't cycle when you are actually in battle).
    This is the perfect solution to my problem! I have an effective (for myself) setup, but didn't want to go to a 3rd hotbar. Didn't realize you could disable #8 with weapon drawn and also set up and then disable the third. Great tip! Don't have GK yet but this is gonna make things so much easier with only 2 active bars plus the L2+R2 one! Thanks!
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  8. #658
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    SunnyHirose's Avatar
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    Sunny Hirose
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 70
    I've been stuck on a hellish hotel connection, and I wanna say good job on figuring most of this stuff out. Now I don't have to try (well, I'll still holler if something ain't right...). Not being able to practice this much, I'm gonna have an embarrassing time in Alexander....

    Fitting the new stuff on the XHB has definitely been a pain. I was able to make the ARR rotation work because all the main abilities could go on one hotbar in a mechanically efficient sequence; now they don't, and That Thing That Would Make It Better never materialized. So what I've currently settled for is to move a lot of stuff (defensive CDs and Piercing Talon) to the 3rd bar, which makes room for FC/WT on two face buttons and a third for Geirskogul. I'll get some screenshots together once I'm back home in a few days.

    Raiding is gonna get interesting!
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  9. #659
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    Kulit Kulitin
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    Adamantoise
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sennema View Post
    This is the perfect solution to my problem! I have an effective (for myself) setup, but didn't want to go to a 3rd hotbar. Didn't realize you could disable #8 with weapon drawn and also set up and then disable the third. Great tip! Don't have GK yet but this is gonna make things so much easier with only 2 active bars plus the L2+R2 one! Thanks!
    Glad I can help! Since using this, I've actually rarely had to use set2 unless I'm aoe. Actually considering moving everything to extended to see how it feels
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  10. #660
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    Kulit Kulitin
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    Adamantoise
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SunnyHirose View Post

    Fitting the new stuff on the XHB has definitely been a pain. I was able to make the ARR rotation work because all the main abilities could go on one hotbar in a mechanically efficient sequence; now they don't, and That Thing That Would Make It Better never materialized. So what I've currently settled for is to move a lot of stuff (defensive CDs and Piercing Talon) to the 3rd bar, which makes room for FC/WT on two face buttons and a third for Geirskogul. I'll get some screenshots together once I'm back home in a few days.

    Raiding is gonna get interesting!
    Take a look at my setup in pg 51. It uses the extended crossbar setup for the new skills.
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