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  1. #631
    Player
    kyrios91's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Dux Dragunity
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    I'm not too sure about BL. If you use BL at the same time as IR in your opener, every 3 IR's/PS's/Jumps will also be buffed by BL, so I genuinely keep them together on the same oCD-window.

    The only cooldown you should really hold in Ravana EX is BotD, so you can carry it through to other phases to have maximum DPS up time.
    Yeah I use this forum's opening rotation minus using pots unless it's for progression.

    As for BotD I just use it as normal until he's casting Prelude, then I just spend it since it's gonna be gone anyway. Then I don't use it during Liberation cast and Beetle form (In most of my runs the BotD would run out after I stop to do the orbs) and then just use it as normal during Swift and Final Liberation.
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  2. #632
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    Krypkins's Avatar
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    Krypikins Avelisa
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50
    So looking towards gear progression in the future would it be safe to assume this priority in stats?

    Str > Acc (to cap) > SS (to 2.41-2.39 gcd) > Crit=Det
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  3. #633
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    Mcfromnc's Avatar
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    Character
    Fatal Cov
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 60
    Can anyone tell me how we are matching up against a ninja of equal skill and gear in the ex primals? I'm just curious who is parsing higher.
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  4. #634
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    Sleigh's Avatar
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    Philia Felice
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Mcfromnc View Post
    Can anyone tell me how we are matching up against a ninja of equal skill and gear in the ex primals? I'm just curious who is parsing higher.
    You're gonna get wildly varying numbers based on clear time and comp, regardless (but still of course importantly) of rotation/skill/CD usage.
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  5. #635
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    Zeviand's Avatar
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    Zeviand Imperiosus
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 60
    Completely random but I absolutely hate clipping my dots so I came up with an idea. I'm not really a numbers person so I'll throw it here and hopefully spark some interest into some math wizzes here.

    My proposed rotation would be the normal CT-FT opener but after reapplying HT I use fracture to delay gcd enough to get an extra (buffed) tick on your dots from your opener and basically continue to reapply after every other HT.

    Pros:
    Extra tick on CT and phleb (significant if the previous application was bugged with BFB IR BL)

    Cons:
    TP concerns (currently not an issue since bis and ravana have downtime)
    Lose 1 geirk per minute
    Delay All abilities by 1 gcd

    I consider myself above average with the rotation I'm currently using. I generally parse in the high 700s in Ravana ex, almost always on top with NIN SMN close behind. I'm always aiming for ways to improve overall dps so I'm constantly doing content (over 40 ravana clears) looking to see what you all think!
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  6. #636
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    Mibhas's Avatar
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    F'mibhas Hena
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 80
    Pretty sure you'd gain more DPS just clipping the DoTs, since cross-class fracture is 220 potency whilst Disembowel is 220 itself and Chaos Thrust is 250 without the DoT.
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  7. #637
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    Tilgung's Avatar
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    Raein Tilgung
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 60
    Not to mention that Gierskogul you lose costs no TP and is only about 10 Potency weaker thanks to how Disembowel works with DoTs.
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  8. #638
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    Zeviand Imperiosus
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Yeah true that. Fracture would be worth a bit more than 220 though since you're getting an extra tick from phleb and CT but you're probably right, clipping is probably still better. Like my friend said, every 4 rotations you're losing a ft or ct combo. I just wish there was a filler potent enough to use so we dot clip
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  9. #639
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    F'mibhas Hena
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    Odin
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    Lancer Lv 80
    You're not getting an extra tick, since you don't have less CT ticks without Fracture; this rotation has 100% CT uptime. It's just that individual CTs do not expend all of their ticks.
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  10. #640
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    Zeviand Imperiosus
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 60
    You don't lose a tick in that sense but you lose potency on each individual CT and phleb if you clip. If you don't get every tick on CT then it's no longer worth 350 potency. Say you lose 2 ticks, the value of each individual CT is now worth 280. So yeah in a sense you do gain a bit of extra potency on fracture, just not enough to overpower the loss of one geirk per minute and the delays on your other abilities . Not to mention when you refresh a dot it'll refresh with your current buffs (or lack thereof), so the buffed tick that youd get by waiting the full duration is replaced by an inferior tick (assing you applied previous dots with buffs).
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