Getting refused to EX groups as a DRK

[Ergumenus]

Warrior here.

Dark Knights are fine. Actually they are pretty OP and could use a nerf. I know someone who plays Dark Knight and they do stuff.

[SpookyGhost]

To me that is a strong implication that most people complaining about DRK honestly don't know shit about shit and are just regurgitating everything they heard from someone else. This is why i take such a heated stance towards mindless bitching.

Always happens. SMNs were refused spots in groups that overgeared FCoB by 10+ ilvls. When enough people complain about a job being subpar, the majority takes that as them being literally a poison to their group. DRK will only potentially have problems in Alexander Savage, but for right now it literally doesn't matter what combination of tanks you bring. The time where everyone was slightly undergeared for the new primals has long since passed, there's no reason to refuse MCH/BRD/AST/DRK at this point. Yes, they need some changes, but they don't require those changes now to do the current content.

[Delorean]

A good group (assumed by your comment) playing easy content well with DRK doesn't prove anything. Now if they choose to do progression during Alex Savage in two weeks with a DRK I'd be impressed.

how many people here even have their sights set on savage though?

that's my point - all this obsession with min maxing and most people play in a group where it doesn't matter and are holding themselves to a standard for a facet of content they will probably not even complete.

if you are focusing on that content then you know that you can't expect a developer to fix your favorite class for you to play and you will have to use what you've got.

but for this low end stuff? every class is viable

[Alphras]

You've apparently never played FF11.....

And a completely different game from a different team with an overly complex and impossible to balance job mechanic is relevant because?

Even the issues we have now that we got three new jobs in one update are not as big as some people seem to believe.

[Kiteless]

how many people here even have their sights set on savage though?

that's my point - all this obsession with min maxing and most people play in a group where it doesn't matter and are holding themselves to a standard for a facet of content they will probably not even complete.

if you are focusing on that content then you know that you can't expect a developer to fix your favorite class for you to play and you will have to use what you've got.

but for this low end stuff? every class is viable

In my experience, it's because for a lot of content, especially early on (although it never REALLY changes too much), you're going to end up with a lot of 'dud' players. And this doesn't even really have to be for hard content, Bismark Ex is really just an easy DPS check, and yet a lot of people have a lot of difficulty with it. So players will try to eliminate as many elements from their party composition that could end up costing them a run and their next sliver of sanity.
In the case of DRK, we have a class that is the least capable of the tanks in addition to having the highest skill requirements of the role. That's a lot of room for some pretty catastrophic error that a lot of other players just might feel isn't worth the risk, whether that risk be proven or simply inferred.

[Gooner_iBluAirJGR]

Agreed don't know where people are getting the idea that DRK is absolutely terrible (2.0 warrior comments)

The forums have poisoned the minds of the player base!
@OP if it makes you feel better: they probably didn't clear it.

[SirTaint]

how many people here even have their sights set on savage though?

that's my point - all this obsession with min maxing and most people play in a group where it doesn't matter and are holding themselves to a standard for a facet of content they will probably not even complete.

if you are focusing on that content then you know that you can't expect a developer to fix your favorite class for you to play and you will have to use what you've got.

but for this low end stuff? every class is viable

You brought up "one of the best groups" since when do the best groups not attempt the only real endgame raid? Alexander Savage (HM or whatever its final name is) is the new coil. Alexander normal is CT level. Bis EX and Ravana EX are barely mid level content especially compared to the previous primals.

My point was every class via for the current game but when endgame begins in two weeks all the flaws of every class will be exposed. I do not predict too many DRKs being used during Progression but I'm sure there will be a few.

[Arasiel]

People say our dps isn't that bad but critting max 1950 isn't exactly making me feel good

[TheCount]

Warrior here.

Dark Knights are fine. Actually they are pretty OP and could use a nerf. I know someone who plays Dark Knight and they do stuff.

i'm guessing that's sarcasm

[Illya]

What scares me is how "WAR is OP" is the new forum meme, if they give us the nerfbat because people are stupid they are going to make a LOT of WAR players really angry, especially after what we endured for 3 months during 2.0.