A serious discussion about abridging the story quest 1-50 (discouraging new players)

[ThanMazus]

Oh I see now, you completely misunderstood that part of my post. I was saying if people expected to just be able to skip the story, why not also expect to instantly get max level gear as well? I wasn't actually saying that the other MMO instantly gives you max gear. Go back and read it, I don't start talking about "that other MMO" until after that analogy. I know that max gear is gated behind mythic raiding in that game. People are fine with it, but somehow gating things behind a story that makes the entire WORLD make sense is oh so awful.
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If they allowed people to get the best gear by just completely skipping raid bosses for example, the gear would mean nothing and raiding would be destroyed.

So you just can't post without being strawmanning, or you choose not to? I read your post, you chose to imply that people who want to skip the story also expect instant max level gear. There's no way to prove that, you're just throwing insults and allegations at people who may or may not like or have ever played "that other MMO".

Correct me if I'm wrong, cause this is a monster thread and I may have missed a post - I don't recall ever seeing anybody unironically suggesting that people ACTUALLY be given raid gear without raiding, ever, outside of a strawman post made to insult another user/game.